The state of Vermont uses NFPA 101 as their code for renovation existing buildings. There is a building with two dwelling units above a mercantile drinking establishment of less than 50 persons.
I am being told that the building occupancy is existing apartment building, but there are only two dwelling units, not three as required by definition of apartment building. Anyone have any suggestion for building occupancy and use from NFPA 101? Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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I have an S-1 occupancy. It is a privately owned storage unit (no public access) used for the storage of exotic cars, maybe 3 vehicles in total. The space is about 1,400 square feet, and is fire sprinkler protected. There is a wood-framed mezzanine at the back of the unit as is about 300 square feet.
The question that has come up is if the underside of the open wood stairs to the mezzanine needs to be protected with fire-retardant gypsum board? There is no sprinkler coverage under the stairs. The mezzanine may be built out by the owner to have a few chairs, a couch, a television, etc. Digging into the code talks a lot about accessibility but not so much about the fire resistance requirements for the stairs. I have the found following in the 2015 IBC (code we are under): 1104.4 Multistory buildings and facilities. At least one accessible route shall connect each accessible story and mezzanine in multilevel buildings and facilities. Exceptions 1. An accessible route is NOT required to stories and mezzanines that have an aggregate area of not more than 3,000 square feet (278.7 m2) and are located above and below accessible levels. This exception shall not apply to: ...and... 4. Where a two-story building or facility has one story or mezzanine with an occupant load of five or fewer persons that does not contain public use space, that story or mezzanine shall not be required to be connected by an accessible route to the story above or below. So...the accessibility issue is covered but nothing about the rating of the stairs that I can find. Any help would be appreciated. Maybe I am not looking in the correct code section. Thank you! Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe I have an exterior stair that connects two different surface parking lots. There is about 12-ft of elevation difference between the two surface lots.
The stair is not a means of egress for either of the adjacent buildings, and is not part of the accessible route/entrance to either site. Would any of the stair requirements in IBC or A117.1 apply? Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe We have a project with a comment from the AHJ stating that the dryer vent cannot terminate to the exterior condominium wall, which is the egress wall for the condominium exit exterior breezeway on that floor.
We're under NFPA 101 (regarding Section 30-3.6.3 for Unprotected Openings). Is a duct penetration considered an unprotected opening? Dry vents cannot have fire/smoke dampers, so can it just be a metal duct? Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe We have a building that used to be a business occupancy but the new occupant wants to now use the occupancy as a church (assembly).
The building is not sprinklered and has no fire alarm system. The new occupant load is 279 people. The problem is the main entrance is on ground level but the second rear exit is below ground level to exit the building. Is the second rear exit below ground level acceptable? Sent in anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe Who has dealt with the question of egress from the vault of a linear accelerator (used to treat patients)?
The vault can only be opened from the inside by a button which can be disabled from the outside! The only manual opener is a crank on the outside! I realize the patient could be incapacitated but what about maintenance and cleaning crews? Any recommendations, especially from those with experience, would be appreciated. Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe I have a double fire wall (two masonry walls next to each other with small air gap in-between). I need to have a door in each wall.
The doors would have to swing opposite directions, I think, which means a double Firewall could not be used in an egress condition where doors both have to open in the direction of travel to the exit. It sounds like I need a tied or cantilevered Firewall instead of a double Firewall. Is this correct, or are there any other approaches to a door within a double Firewall? Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe At our site I'm dealing with personnel wanting to park small vehicles (Gem carts and forklifts) inside the building.
I know this is clearly not allowed in an egress corridor (where it was) but I'm having trouble finding parts of the code addressing storage in mechanical rooms or similar space. I know NFPA 101 has rules for high hazard contents but not sure if I can make that argument for the vehicles. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks in advance. Submitted anonymously and posted for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe I'm an AHJ and I know many plan reviewers and inspectors in my area are new to the trade.
Does anyone have recommendation(s) for good plan review checklists or tools for plan review that would be helpful to rookie and intermediate-level plan reviewers? Thanks in advance. Submitted anonymously and posted for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe Anybody in this group has experience to design or approval of parking stackers inside the building?
This is outside the code will be reviewed as Amended Means & Methods. They occur on two different projects (1) The Car's engine shall be off when enter the parking garage and electronic left will park the cars in stack, and (2) The car will be driven inside the garage to platform to be parked. In both cases the fire sprinkler design density, exhaust system and means of egress requirements are in question. Submitted anonymously and posted for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe We have an exit enclosure that is rated as Class I Division I. My understanding of an accessible route and means of egress, is that it is a "safe" means of egress.
Can an accessible route have a Class I Division I (explosion hazardous classification), or does it need to be purged and pressurized according to Type X requirements? Submitted anonymously and posted for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe I am working on a project with male and female restrooms in separate structures located near a park. The structures are roughly 500 sqft. The structures must comply with NFPA 101 for means of egress. I am trying to figure out travel distance requirements.
What occupancy would you classify the restrooms as? And in turn what would be the maximum travel distance if there is only a single door? Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe This building is an H-1 occupancy. There is an area of refuge on the 4th floor. The shelter-in-place Class 3 area of refuge is protected from interior and exterior hazards. There are vertical openings through all 4 floors. The UFC is governing.
Based on this, do the stairwells need to be intertied directly to the shelter-in-place area of refuge for an exit enclosure that is a direct accessible means of egress (we are providing accessibility provisions)? Does the shelter-in-place area need to be a smoke enclosure as well as the interconnected stairwell system? Based on this will both the stairwell and the shelter-in-place need to be pressurized to meet design intent? Both exterior and interior air is hazardous and a scrubber would be needed to inject air for stairwell pressurization. Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe I am dealing with a Military building. It is an H-1 occupancy. The building is currently 4 stories high.
This is not allowed per IBC based on means of egress. Has anyone made an argument based on UFC referring to NFPA 101 for means of egress related items to make an H-1 occupancy allowed to be more than 1 story? Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe We have a dormitory project where, on the first floor, and entry lobby at the front entrance connects directly into a main corridor that runs the length of the dormitory. On either end of the corridor are exterior exits. There are also exit enclosures from the two upper levels that discharge to the exterior on both ends of the building. This project is under NFPA 101-2018 and is fully-sprinklered.
NFPA 101-2018 7.1.3.1 and 28.3.6 state the following: 7.1.3 Separation of Means of Egress. 7.1.3.1 Exit Access Corridors. Corridors used as exit access and serving an area having an occupant load exceeding 30 shall be separated from other parts of the building by walls having not less than a 1-hour fire resistance rating in accordance with Section 8.3, unless otherwise permitted by one of the following: (1) This requirement shall not apply to existing buildings, provided that the occupancy classification does not change. (2) This requirement shall not apply where otherwise provided in Chapters 11 through 43. Because this is a new dormitory, Chapter 28 also applies: 28.3.6 Corridors. 28.3.6.1 Walls. 28.3.6.1.1 Exit access corridor walls shall comply with 28.3.6.1.2 or 28.3.6.1.3. 28.3.6.1.2 In buildings not complying with 28.3.6.1.3, exit access corridor walls shall consist of fire barriers in accordance with Section 8.3 that have not less than a 1-hour fire resistance rating. 28.3.6.1.3 In buildings protected throughout by an approved, supervised automatic sprinkler system in accordance with 28.3.5, corridor walls shall have a minimum 1∕2-hour fire resistance rating. Our question is - is the lobby, by code, considered part of the corridor (and therefore need to be rated)? Two ways of looking at this - one is that the code is strictly only discussing requirements for the corridor and not a lobby. The other way of looking at it is that the lobby is acting as the corridor when it serves as part of the exit access for the building. Normally a 1/2-hour rating wouldn't make all that much of a difference, but there's storefront in the lobby space between an adjacent office and the lobby which would have a cost impact to the project. Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe Are exits in industrial occupancies required to have panic hardware if the overall number of employees is 50 or more?
This is under NFPA 101 Life Safety Code, 2018 edition. Thanks. Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe I'm working on an exercise studio with one big open room and dealing with a plan examiner who insists travel distance is measured along walls leading to an exit, rather than diagonally across the space. To me this is absurd. Thoughts?
Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe Within stairwells, how are standpipes addressed in regards to cane detection with ABA/ADA rules? Are there any special cane-detection requirements (anything special to allow a visually-impaired person to detect a vertical standpipe)?
Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe Are there any scenario where the means of egress can be routed from a corridor, through a room, to the exterior? Must all egress corridors discharge to the exterior?
I would assume panic hardware would have to be provided and the room couldn't have a means of being locked, but if a room is relatively low-hazard (like a classroom) could it be used for egress between a corridor and the exterior? Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe A small core area of a two-story office building has two stairs. One is a traditional enclosed exit stair fire-rated at 1-hour. The other stair is intended to be an "open access stair". The project is under NFPA 101 for means of egress and is sprinkler protected under NFPA 13.
NFPA 101 Chapter 38 New Business Occupancies NFPA 101 38.3 Protection NFPA 101 38.3.1 Protection of Vertical Openings NFPA 101 38.3.1.1 Vertical openings shall be enclosed or protected in accordance with Section 8.6, unless otherwise permitted by any of the following: (4) Exit access stairs in accordance with 38.2.4.6 shall permitted to be unenclosed. NFPA 101 38.2.4.6 A single means of egress shall be permitted for a maximum two-story, single-tenant space or building provided that both of the following criteria are met: (1) The building is protected throughout by an approved, supervised automatic sprinkler system in accordance with 9.7.1.1(1). (2) The total travel to the outside does not exceed 100 ft. The only way to have an unenclosed stair for this building is if the "total travel to the outside" can include travel through the unenclosed "exit access stair". Is it permissible to have one open stair and one enclosed stair with "total travel to the outside" going through the open access stair? Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe I am currently dealing with a fire station that was constructed in 1965, prior to any adopted building codes in Indiana.
The fire station suffered structural and roof damage during a storm from a tree fall. My question is an exterior exit staircase from the second floor was damaged. A structural engineer assessed the staircase and addressed the items needing repaired, which is quite extensive and will need to be removed for repair. The staircase is far from meeting current code. The insurance company does not want to pay for a new exterior stairway that would meet code, they want to have it repaired. Is there any code requirement in the 2012 IBC that would require this stairway to be brought up to the 2012 IBC on an existing building? The stairway is the original. I cannot for the life of me find a code section that would require this stairway to be code compliant if removed and repaired. If we can cite a code requirement for this to be code compliant the insurance will pay for a brand new stairway, which is our goal. Any recommendations or prior experience with this type of situation would be greatly appreciated! (You would think the insurance would want a code compliant exit component, but I know its all about the $$$) Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe Are calculated stair widths based on occupant loads based only on a single level that the stair is serving, or a cumulative (total) occupant load for all floors the stair serves?
Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe I'm looking for basic to intermediate online training for means of egress and passive fire protection topics for myself and my team.
Any tips for finding quality continuing education in this arena? We work mostly with the IBC, but occasionally with NFPA 101 as well. Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe Our project has a proposed layout includes convenience stairs next to a corridor that serves restrooms, utility spaces, and doors to large open office areas. It's a B-occupancy subject to NFPA 101 requirements.
As a side note, the International Building Code (2018) makes it clear that two-story openings are permitted in occupancies other than I-2 and I-3 when they meet certain limitations, per section 712.1.9. One of the limitations it that is it not open to a corridor, but that's in Group I or R occupancies only. Group I and R occupancies require special treatment for corridors. NFPA 101 has similar provisions for Convenience Openings (Section 8.6.9). One of the requirements is that "such openings shall be separated from corridors", per section 8.6.9.1(3). If corridors in a building are not required to be separated (such as for an open-office B occupancy), does this requirement still apply, or is this section saying that we have to have rated corridors whenever we have convenience stair openings? 8.6.9 Convenience Openings. 8.6.9.1 Where permitted by Chapters 11 through 43, unenclosed vertical openings not concealed within the building construction shall be permitted as follows: (1) Such openings shall connect not more than two adjacent stories (one floor pierced only). (2) Such openings shall be separated from unprotected vertical openings serving other floors by a barrier complying with 8.6.5. (3)* Such openings shall be separated from corridors. (4)* In other than approved, existing convenience openings, such openings shall be separated from other fire or smoke compartments on the same floor. (5) In new construction, the convenience opening shall be separated from the corridor referenced in 8.6.9.1(3) by a smoke partition, unless Chapters 11 through 43 require the corridor to have a fire resistance rating. (6)* Such openings shall not serve as a required means of egress. Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe An elementary school must perform a fire drill at least: a. Once per month b. Once every other month c. Once per semester (twice each year) d. Once per year |
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