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A New Calculator for Cloud Ceiling Sprinklers

3/7/2018

 
Last Week's Survey Results

Last week I sent a survey asking for "challenges associated with sprinkler identification and design selection."

I really appreciate the input provided, there was really helpful and great feedback: common challenges people noted in the survey included sprinkler market availability, listing and approvals, field identification, adherence with product data, price, storage limitations, pressure requirements, and spacing requirements.

Anticipation for the Big Launch

I am very excited to say that I've been developing a live resource over the past couple years to address almost exactly those challenges. Stay tuned, as more details will be available about the launch in a few weeks. 

In the meantime, I'm also excited that the blog posts over next three weeks (starting with today) will feature tools designed to help streamline and speed workflow for inspectors, designers and engineers. 

Part I of III: The Cloud Ceiling Calculator

This first week covers the relatively new allowances for cloud ceilings.
Fire Sprinkler Cloud Ceiling
"Cloud" Ceilings where directly addressed in NFPA 13 beginning with the 2016 Edition

Cloud Ceilings include any ceiling installed in the same plane with horizontal openings to the structure above on all sides (NFPA 13-2016 3.3.5.1). The "cloud" is simply in reference to the appearance that the ceiling "floats". 

The new provisions in NFPA 13-2016 allows sprinklers to be omitted above cloud ceilings where the gap between clouds (or clouds and walls) meets a maximum allowable dimension based on the floor-to-cloud ceiling height.

Backed by Research

What I love about this new verbiage is not just that the NFPA 13 committee addressed a specific topic that many had asked about for some time, but that the development of the rules for this section are based on a commissioned project by the Fire Protection Research Foundation.

So what is the guidance based on the research findings? Spaces above cloud ceilings do not require sprinklers where the openings have a combined total area of not more than 20 percent of the ceiling, construction feature, or plane used to determine the boundaries of the concealed space and the cloud ceiling arrangement meets Section 8.15.24.1 (NFPA 13-2016 8.15.1.2.1.3).

Limitations

I've already mentioned that the opening between all cloud ceilings can't be more than 20% of the total room area, but there's a few others that also apply:
  • Sprinklers must be quick response, standard or extended coverage, and pendent or uprights (NFPA 13-2016 8.15.24.2.1)
  • Extended coverage sprinklers cannot be more than 16 ft x 16 ft spacing (NFPA 13-2016 8.15.24.2.1.1)
  • Maximum ceiling height cannot exceed 20 feet (NFPA 13-2016 8.15.24.2.2)
  • Normal sprinkler spacing tables of 8.6.2.2.1(a) for light hazard and 8.6.2.2.1(b) for ordinary hazard can't be exceeded (NFPA 13-2016 8.15.24.2.3)
  • Ceilings must be of smooth construction (NFPA 13-2016 8.15.24.2.4)
  • For irregular shaped (non-rectangular) ceilings, the minimum ceiling width dimension is the smallest dimension of the cloud and the gap width dimension must be the greatest between clouds or  walls (NFPA 13-2016 8.15.24.2.5)

Ceiling Spacing Calculator

If these limitations can be met, sprinklers may be omitted above where the spacing below the ceiling complies with Table 8.15.24.1. The table addresses the maximum protection area based upon the research, and is a little less than intuitive.

​Here's a quick calculator that takes your parameters and gathers the appropriate maximum sprinkler protection area (click the link to see the full tool, with a schematic section of the ceiling arrangement):
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Enter your project parameters in the red highlighted cells to test your situation. Give it tool a try and let us know what you think in the comments section below. 

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Warren Maddox
5/9/2018 05:44:27 pm

I am not sure how to obtain the tools. I am interested in the Cloud Ceiling tool and the Water supply tool.

Ronald Elkins
6/7/2018 11:29:37 am

Good information for designers. Will recommend this site to others.

Tod Connors
8/26/2019 04:38:26 pm

When there's a cloud ceiling that requires sprinklers above and below, how does that play out in the hydraulic calculations? 23.4.4.5 implies that we should only include the upright heads at the ceiling and exclude the pendants in the floating clouds from the remote area calculations. Do you think that's the right call?

Smith Choi
1/14/2020 10:14:56 am

I am interested in the Cloud Ceiling tool and the Water supply tool

Joe Meyer
1/14/2020 10:22:25 am

Hi Smith! These are available as a complete software toolkit package - see here: https://www.meyerfire.com/toolkit.html

Hope this helps, thanks!


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    • SUBMIT AN IDEA
    • BACKFLOW DATABASE*
    • CLEAN AGENT ESTIMATOR*
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    • DOMESTIC DEMAND*
    • FIRE FLOW CALCULATOR*
    • FIRE PUMP ANALYZER*
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    • FRICTION LOSS CALCULATOR
    • HANGER SPACER*
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    • NFPA 13 EDITION TRANSLATOR ('99-'22)*
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    • OBSTRUCTIONS AGAINST WALL*
    • PLUMBING FIXTURE COUNTS
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