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As an engineering consultant I've worked across a good scattering of the continental US. Occasionally I find jurisdictions who do not allow a "performance-specification" set of documents, but rather require that the fire sprinkler system be entirely laid out and hydraulically calculated with the building permit submittal.
Right now I'm aware of some areas in Florida and New York City as being two that have stood out as having this requirement. In your experience is this common? What other jurisdictions do you know of require "full-design"? Posted anonymously for discussion. Discuss This | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Shannon
1/3/2020 10:08:00 am
That is not a requirement throughout Maryland, DC or Northern Virginia. Building plans must show the intention to fully sprinkler/provide fire alarm in accordance with the appropriate code but fire protection systems are always separate permits.
Steve B
1/3/2020 11:06:27 am
City of Raleigh (Raleigh NC)
Tommy
1/3/2020 11:38:03 am
DSA in CA requires this, as does many other AHJ's in CA. Deferred Submittals seem to be going by the wayside in CA.
Wayne Ammons
1/3/2020 11:48:11 am
At the building permit phase, most jurisdictions in Florida will accept an engineering document meeting all the criteria from FL Statute 61G15-32.004. Commonly referred to as a "61G A-M" drawing, this is typically just a single sheet with site plan and the statutory notes. Although not full shop drawings, City of Orlando is a jurisdiction that I deal with frequently that requires lines, circles, and calculations at the building permit phase.
Jon Sullivan
1/3/2020 12:23:18 pm
What has your experience been with performing design build work in Orlando if any? It does not seem that project responsibilities are clear cut between the installing contractor and DOR especially in that case if both are consultants to the GC.
Wayne Ammons
1/4/2020 10:07:13 am
Most of the design work I do is design-build. My company has multiple engineers on staff so many times we will be the engineer of record as well as the installing contractor. Very often we are involved with the project at the building permit phase, establishing clear engineer of record/contractor responsibilities. On projects that we become involved in after the building permit phase, it is critical that a clear understanding of the players already involved be established.
sean
1/4/2020 08:29:55 pm
the state of illinois requires a technical submittal which is not shop drawing but an engineer must provide scope drawing for the building
Rusty Scott
1/6/2020 08:12:15 am
State of Virginia just required our firm to do a full system layout and calc on a college building. Leave a Reply. |
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