I am in the process of bidding an existing building. Here is the rundown: the ground level has parking. Above that is a 3-hour horizontal separation between the parking and the first floor. Then there are three stories of apartments above the separation. I’m looking at this as two separate buildings and am proposing NFPA 13 for the parking and NFPA 13R for the apartments above. It will also have two dry standpipes on the exterior stairwells. My question comes to sprinkler protection on the outside exit corridors and the egress travel distance. NFPA 13R Section 6.6.5 clearly states that the exit corridors are not required to be protected. Life Safety code allows a means of egress travel distance of 250' for a sprinklered building. If the building is sprinklered per NFPA 13R with the above ommision, can the 250' egress travel distance be used? Thought/Comments appreciated! Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Pete H
6/20/2023 07:05:33 am
If you're in type v construction, 6.6.5.1 would require protection anyway.
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Pete H
6/20/2023 07:32:27 am
Further on the subject: NFPA 13R 2022 edition also adds 6.6.5.2 which directly says sprinklers shall be provided for exterior corridors and balconies that are part of a means of egress
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Danial Bartle
6/20/2023 08:35:09 am
You do not mention what the height will be or if the "penthouse" is an apartment or a mechanical space. NFPA 13R allows a pedestal design with NFPA 13 used for the base but the height of the building cannot exceed 60 feet if you want to use 13R.
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Jesse
6/20/2023 09:08:02 am
This is one of those weird questions where it depends on the version of NFPA 13 the AHJ has adopted.
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Dan Wilder
6/20/2023 09:26:03 am
Is the building over 60' tall from the grade plane to even utilize 13R based on the applicable IBC? And verify the floor area increase and other IBC items are being followed to allow 13R?
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Kenneth Edwards
6/20/2023 11:24:44 am
We are currently on the 2013 version. Building is 50' tall
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Todd E Wyatt
6/20/2023 12:40:22 pm
An automatic sprinkler system (ASPS) meeting NFPA 13R may not be permitted by the scoping Code (e.g. 2021 IBC) if the Group R Residential Occupancy Classification (OC) is more than four stories above grade plane. The "New Penthouse Unit" needs clarification IF it is a "story" or is a "penthouse".
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Todd E Wyatt
6/20/2023 01:19:28 pm
After re-reviewing the building section provided, it indicates (1) story of Group S-2 Storage (Parking Garage) + (3) stories of Group R-2 Residential (Apartments) + (1) "New Penthouse Unit" level (Story or PH?).
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Todd E Wyatt
6/20/2023 12:41:50 pm
REFERENCES
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Todd E Wyatt
6/20/2023 12:45:17 pm
Chapter 5 General Building Heights and Areas
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