UL Listed 1" Solenoid Valve for Fire Sprinkler Use?

8/26/2022

Does anyone know of a UL Listed 1-inch Solenoid valve?

And now to make it harder, the AHJ is specifically calling for this solenoid listing to be for "Fire Sprinkler" not just "Fire Protection" or even "Fire Suppression". They wish to require a normally-open solenoid valve (approved and listed for fire sprinkler use) for the sprinkler at the top of an elevator shaft and we're trying to work with them.

Thanks in advance.

Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe

7 Comments

Alex

8/26/2022 06:11:03 am

Hi,

Are you looking to be able to isolate the single sprinkler remotely? I'm not familiar of a solenoid rated for this. The only solenoids you will find are for deluge systems (both normally open and closed).

Curious to see if others are familiar of a product!

Alex

M. Newell

8/26/2022 09:25:12 am

If you go UL Product IQ, https://productiq.ulprospector.com/
You can search their data base and see if they have any listings for that specific product.

Jesse

8/26/2022 10:31:20 am

I got nothing. That's a weird one.

Dave

8/26/2022 11:01:27 am

A delicate situation, this is usually where I reach out to my technical services of the manufacturer I utilize (e.g., Victaulic, Reliable) for relief. This is an interesting article on UL / FM from the QRFS blog.
https://blog.qrfs.com/242-ul-listed-and-fm-approvals-which-listings-matter-for-fire-protection-under-nfpa-13/

Glenn Berger

8/26/2022 11:52:43 am

Not familiar with any general UL/FM approvals for solenoid valves. Only seen approvals with deluge valves, clean agent systems, etc.

Sophia

8/26/2022 01:14:52 pm

We had the exact same request from AHJ to provide them a UL Listed 1-inch Solenoid Valve (a normally open solenoid valve, approved and listed for fire sprinkler use) for the Elevator Shaft in Self-Storage Project back in 2015.

We did massive research to find out the product to comply this request from AHJ, but we couldn't find out the product, exactly matched to this request. Only, one product, clearly indicated UL listed for fire protection systems per UL429A, was ASCO's RedHat Pilot Operated General Services Solenoid Valves Series 8210 at that time (currently, ASCO is part of Emerson, and this is now the ASCO Series 210), however, this was Normally Closed 1/2"...

Please see the Catalog Specifications Catalog No. 8210G227 with the footnote as your reference.

https://www.emerson.com/documents/automation/catalog-general-service-series-210-asco-en-4290854.pdf

https://www.emerson.com/en-us/catalog/automation-solutions/asco-210?fetchFacets=true#facet:&partsFacet:&facetLimit:&productBeginIndex:0&partsBeginIndex:0&orderBy:0&partsOrderBy:&pageView:list&minPrice:&maxPrice:&pageSize:&facetRange:&

Since nothing matched, we submitted our findings to AHJ for their review, and surprisingly, AHJ accepted this valve, and the contractor installed this Normally Closed 1/2" solenoid valve for 1" sprinkler pipe for the Elevator Shaft.

Even though above project accepted with this 1/2" solenoid valve for 1" pipe, ever since then, for all other projects, we never proposed solenoid valve installation for the Elevator Shaft, and instead, shut-off valve with flow and tamper switch installed for 1" sprinkler pipe for Elevator Shaft along with heat detector installation at the top of Elevator Shaft. This AHJ always accepted this shut-off valve with flow and tamper switch installation for this application without any objections.

Hope above information can be a bit of help and AHJ can be flexible, due to the difficulty you are facing per the product availability.

Thomas Duross

8/27/2022 12:56:25 pm

Have you looked at Jim McHugh's remote test?
https://agfmfg.com/remotetest/

Leave a Reply.

Home
Our Cause

The Blog
The Forum

PE Exam Prep
The Toolkit
MeyerFire University

Pricing
Login
Support
Contact Us

MeyerFire.com is a startup community built to help fire protection professionals shine.
Our goal is to improve fire protection practices worldwide. We promote the industry by creating helpful tools and resources, and by bringing together industry professionals to share their expertise.

MeyerFire, LLC is a NICET Recognized Training Provider and International Code Council Preferred Education Provider.
All text, images, and media Copyright © 2016-2024 MeyerFire, LLC

We respect your privacy and personal data. See our Privacy Policy and Terms of Service. The views, opinions, and information found on this site represent solely the author and do not represent the opinions of any other party, nor does the presented material assume responsibility for its use. Fire protection and life safety systems constitute a critical component for public health and safety and you should consult with a licensed professional for proper design and code adherence.

Discussions are solely for the purpose of peer review and the exchange of ideas. All comments are reviewed. Comments which do not contribute, are not relevant, are spam, or are disrespectful in nature may be removed. Information presented and opinions expressed should not be relied upon as a replacement for consulting services. Some (not all) outbound links on this website, such as Amazon links, are affiliate-based where we receive a small commission for orders placed elsewhere.

UL Listed 1" Solenoid Valve for Fire Sprinkler Use?

Leave a Reply.

ALL-ACCESS

SUBSCRIBE

COMMUNITY

YOUR POST

PE EXAM

FILTERS

ARCHIVES

PE PREP SERIES