Is there a general rule of thumb concerning overall installation cost for standard coverage vs. extended coverage sprinklers?
That is, if I can use half as many extended coverage (EC) sprinklers, is the system going to cost significantly less or more? Two examples come to mind:
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Pete H
4/24/2024 06:34:19 am
I don't think so. Mostly because labor rates aren't uniform. But that's where most of my savings from using Extended Coverage sprinklers over standard coverage really comes in.
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Dan Wilder
4/24/2024 08:05:35 am
Depending on the space overall, yes there is a break even/cost savings for using EC vs SC but that becomes a quantity justification that I can't put a number two. Installing 10 EC instead of 16-18 SC is not enough savings to justify the increased cost of the sprinkler, the calc to prove the design, and the field dealing with two sprinkler types and likely two fitting types (the RC's) for a short drop project, longer drops swing that needle faster.
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Anthony
4/24/2024 08:06:32 am
I can think of at least a few times where I was able to 1/2 the number of lines we were installing by using EC heads in an ordinary 1 or 2 application. Happened in a pre-engineered steel buildings where the bay spacing was less than 20'-0.
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Glenn Berger
4/24/2024 08:14:42 am
In addition to the above - Remember that EC sprinklers requires a greater starting pressure and therefore more pressure for system design / operation.
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4/24/2024 08:17:12 am
Water supply should also be considered as EC sprinklers require higher pressures and flows to operate.
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Jack G
4/24/2024 08:28:04 am
I ve been around and saw the introduction of EC heads.
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NK
4/24/2024 08:28:56 am
I would ask myself some questions along these lines to see if there's a price/schedule benefit to using extended coverage:
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Jesse
4/24/2024 08:50:47 am
I think there are too many variable to offer a specific and accurate metric re: cost savings in using EC vs. SC. That being said, over the course of a large project - i.e. a multi-story LH office building, significant cost savings can be had. ECs require a higher operating pressure so I don't even consider it if my water supply is poor.
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Kris M
4/24/2024 09:34:08 am
I have had experiences where using EC sprinklers avoided potential damage to sprinklers and lines in certain spots.
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Dave
4/24/2024 10:37:42 am
I agree with the usual suspects above, I lot of schools I have been involved in would have classrooms sized such that four EC's take the place of six or even nine standard coverage, and save a couple branch lines. But it is case-by case and sometimes it's a wash. Though not part of the original excellent question, when reviewing drawings, I always watch for improper use of EC's, in ceilings sloped greater than 2:12 slope, not smooth and flat, obstructions, etc., etc. And checking the particular listing of sprinklers which may have different coverages for SR vs. QR. (And yes, it is okay to have SR and EC in the same compartment.)
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Dave
4/24/2024 10:44:35 am
(^Okay to have SC and EC, I meant^)
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Danefre
4/25/2024 07:34:39 am
It depends on the building and the structure but typically i shoot for eliminating a 1/3 or 1/2 of the branchlines. Otherwise it's not worth it for us.
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Mark Harris
4/26/2024 02:33:18 pm
Seems like most Target Stores are using EC layouts but as many above noted they are the first and maybe only tenant,
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