What is the required duration for a Secondary Water Supply within Seismic Zone?
IBC Section 403.3.3: "The secondary water supply shall have a duration of not less than 30 minutes as determined by the occupancy hazard classification in accordance with NFPA 13." Does this mean minimum 30 minutes, with the gpm/demand determined by NFPA 13? Or the minimum duration is also determined by NFPA 13, such that the secondary water supply could require an even longer duration, like 60 minutes? Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Anthony
1/26/2023 08:11:47 am
Per NFPA 13-2016:
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Glenn Berger
1/26/2023 08:28:59 am
As I re-read and re-read your question and I am understanding why this question was asked to the group.
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Todd E Wyatt
1/26/2023 09:03:50 am
IBC 403.3.3 (2021) is the subsection for “Section 403 High-Rise Building” (HRBs) so the 30 minute duration of the secondary water supply is only required for HRBs :
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Dan Wilder
1/26/2023 09:18:02 am
If the building needs a secondary water supply, I recommend looking at the volume from the standpipe calculations in addition to the sprinkler.
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COLIN LUSHER
2/1/2023 12:04:57 pm
I just dealt with this in a long battle with our AHJ, and we won the dispute, see my other comment. IBC 403.3.3 specifically states that the secondary supply is only for the SPRINKLER system. In fact, section 403.3 only relates to "Automatic Sprinkler System". Standpipe systems do not need to be accounted for in this calculation.
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Colin Lusher
2/1/2023 12:25:06 pm
I just dealt with this issue in an ongoing battle with our AHJ, and we ended up winning the dispute and convincing them that our interpretation was correct.
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Matt Kindall
5/18/2023 12:39:39 pm
I am struggling with a review for this very situation, and hoping someone can help me understand. I work for a small city in Oregon and we have a new high-rise courthouse being built (the first in our town, and the first I've ever reviewed). The building will be six stories and a basement, with the 30,000 gallon auxilliary water tank installed in the basement. I am having a really hard time understanding the tank sizing requirement for this. Is the tank based on the most demanding remote area gpm requirement, the combined remote areas, or just off of (NFPA 13 2016) Table 11.2.3.1.2? So far they have only submitted the basement for this phased submittal, which includes four separate remote areas, and I'm sure there will be others in the floors above. I'm a bit out of my element here and would love any help y'all can provide.
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Colin Lusher
5/21/2023 05:04:42 pm
Matt, assuming the auxiliary supply is to satisfy IBC, the required duration is based on most demanding remote area flow requirements (based on hydraulic calculations or a conservative estimate), and the duration for the supply is per NFPA 13 for the hazard being protected (e.g. 30 minutes for Light Hazard, 60-90 minutes for Ordinary Hazard, etc.). The 30k gallon tank is fairly typical for Ordinary Hazard Group 2 with no area reduction used. The tank size can be reduced down if Quick Response area reduction or other flow reduction methods are used, but this size sounds pretty safe for your application.
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