We have an NFPA 13 system with portable stackable racks.
These are 8-ft tall, made of steel tubing and solid wood floors (which carry window and door products). Should this be considered solid-shelf rack storage, or solid-piled storage? Thanks in advance. Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Alex
5/5/2022 05:16:08 am
Hi,
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Pete H
5/5/2022 06:49:34 am
I have to agree with Alex. If it was piles of wood atop a slatted shelf, that would just be the commodity but not the shelf. But it's not. You have a solid wood base in the description. So it is solid shelf racks.
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Pete H
5/5/2022 06:51:56 am
Rereading I see the question was whether it's solid shelf racks vs solid piled.
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Dan Wilder
5/5/2022 08:02:59 am
Just some thoughts...
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Dan Wilder
5/5/2022 10:17:07 am
This is what I am dealing with on my tire storage so I assume this is what you have? I am seeing this much more as these have different requirements on the building code side for installation and easier on the owners for storage configuration changes.
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Nathan Keller
5/5/2022 01:16:42 pm
Yes, in-rack sprinklers are not an option, because these stackable racks will be moved around with forklifts and stacked two-high. The area of each rack is greater than 20 sq. ft. so it cannot be considered open rack shelving. I will look into the racking storage permits. Thank you!
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Jesse
5/5/2022 08:15:18 am
Effectively this is solid shelving, not to be treated as solid unit load pile. The issue will be the air movement between tiers of storage in the event of a fire, which you have in this case but not in the case of a solid pile. This is the same reason a 6-ft stack of idle wooden pallets is treated differently than a 6-ft stack of lumber.
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Nathan Keller
5/5/2022 01:17:57 pm
That's a very persuasive argument.
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Eric R
5/5/2022 11:30:41 am
Took a few minutes to look through NFPA 13, and all I can offer up at the moment is that you'll definitely want to measure those shelves asap to see if they fall under 20 sqft.
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Nathan Keller
5/5/2022 01:25:42 pm
Good observations. Another option I was considering was having my client modify the bottoms of the stackable racks to be slatted rather than solid. 16.2.4.1.2 of NFPA 13, 2016 edition outlines the conditions where this is valid. I ended up not being able to go this route because the building ceiling is too tall and is using ESFR sprinklers.
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Bob
5/10/2022 06:15:48 pm
I think when it comes to the actual fire engineering, Jesse's comment most resembles the proper view. What is likely understated above in the “up to 20 SF” comments are some of the NFPA-13 (2019) restrictions. (NOTE: there is another change point above 64 SF).
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