Do metal or steel pallets have any adverse effects on a storage system's (either racked or high-piled) sprinkler demand or density?
I know plastic pallets can increase the commodity classification of class I-class IV commodities, but I don't think metal does. I have a storage facility that can't use wood pallets but also can't protect the level of plastic commodities required without a costly fire pump. Thanks in advance. Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Anthony
1/25/2022 08:07:40 am
No adverse effect on the system. Non combustible is non combustible.
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Jesse
1/25/2022 08:08:41 am
Nope. Non-combustible is non-combustible and won't contribute to the fuel load.
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Glenn Berger
1/25/2022 08:11:41 am
One issue that I have come across -- Metal pallets can be viewed as causing solid shelving configuration. But as far as adverse effects going from plastic to metal pallets - none.
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Franck
1/25/2022 08:35:24 am
This is true, but only with oversized pallets.
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Ed K
1/25/2022 09:41:20 am
I was curious about this and searched NFPA 13 (2019) for "slave". For the particular conditions listed, section 21.4.1.4.2 says to increase ceiling density 20% when using a solid, flat-bottom, combustible pallet in lieu of conventional pallets. The OP is considering non-combustible pallets, but I take from this that under the right (wrong?) conditions, a slave-type pallet can increase the hazard vs a conventional pallet. I'm not making sense of that - can anyone enlighten me?
Franck
1/25/2022 11:22:37 am
You're right, it is quite strange as if you are looking to the definition of open vs solid shelves, having a solid shelf less than 20 sq ft is considered as open rack (as you would still have the longitudinal and transverse flue space).
Franck
1/25/2022 08:32:25 am
It should even require a lower density (but NFPA has not gone that far…).
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Anthony c Brown
1/25/2022 08:37:24 am
Just finished an analysis for a pharmaceutical warehouse rack system and in doing so took a hard look at various pallets. The quotes on the steel pallets came in around $230-285 depending on size. The fire retardant pallets meeting client requirements were coming in at $140. Just wondering if you have done a complete life-cycle analysis of the pallets v. the Fire Pump.
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Alex
1/25/2022 09:33:33 am
I agree with Anthony's thought here, but make sure you think of reoccurring costs down the road as well. Along with possible replacement parts/maintenance.
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Greg
1/25/2022 08:42:57 am
In the question I see that a key issue is the cost of a fire pump. Are you absolutely certain that your current system can not provide ample water ? Remember k factor changes, increased main piping size, gridd-ing the system might be enough to get a sufficient density for your commodity, configuration and height. Have any improvements been made to the building's water supply...can any improvements be made (example; a commitment by the city to increase pressure or improve line sizing, etc.). Is the underground lead -in or backflow preventer stealing too much pressure? You might need every last psi to make something work, short of a fire pump. And....can the plant manager give any concessions on storage height, arrangement, etc. that will get you to the correct density.
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Franck
1/25/2022 08:59:57 am
I can see anyway a great advantage of using metal pallets versus plastic pallets, even though the water supply and sprinkler system can cope with the plastic pallets: you eliminate the hazard related to the plastic pallets, which is present in the storage configuration (obvious aggravating factor for your commodity), but would also be present with pile storage of idle pallets somewhere in the same warehouse. Plastic idle pallets storage is a real nightmare!
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Alex
1/25/2022 09:35:34 am
Echoing others, no effect. Noncombustible!
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