Working from an insurance perspective through a sprinkler design for a warehouse.
The warehouse contains "flammable solids" in carton storage. These are considered to be H228 "flammable solids", according to the California Highway Patrol (CHP). Can these be protected as plastics? Would we need to store these in a separate area? Unsure how to begin to address these, thanks in advance. Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Glenn Berger
7/5/2022 08:21:28 am
Separation of this hazard is typically required - exterior wall, fire separated from all other spaces. Exterior access may also be required.
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Dan Wilder
7/5/2022 08:32:09 am
No to plastics as a general condition, reading definitions (at a glance) some of these products don't react well to water, others look to have a small density requirement up to massive water dumping...and some just says "don't store where sprinklers are present if possible". There are some foam options I'm sure.
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Anthony
7/5/2022 08:36:32 am
From a quick google search it seems that the H228 designation is form " Globally Harmonized System of Classification and Labelling of Chemicals." Further reading indicates this designation can indicate a wide variety of products. Much of the admittedly quick searching calls for a type "d" fire extinguisher indicating a metal fire hazard or a hazard where water would be inappropriate as an extinguishing medium.
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Jon
7/5/2022 08:47:19 am
If the project you are working on is in California, I suggest going through the California Fire Code to determine how to protect the flammable solids. In particular, Chapters 50 & 59 would be a good place to start your search.
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Todd E Wyatt
7/6/2022 10:26:56 am
I agree ... the initial Code evaluation should start with the 2022 California Administrative Code (CAC) and the 2022 California Fire Code (CFC) to determine the classification of the Hazardous Materials (HM) and the Maximum Allowable Quantities (MAQ) of HMs per Control Area (CA).
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Jesse
7/5/2022 10:16:09 am
I would consider a separation of hazard to begin with. And spend a lot of time carefully reviewing specifically what the flammable solid is, to make sure it's not water reactive.
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Unfortunately, you'll need more information about about the specific type of flammable solid, quantities, state (powder, solid, shavings, etc.), storage configuration and builidng occupancy classification to determine the minimum fire protection design.
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sean
7/5/2022 01:35:09 pm
we need a ton more info about the material and storage arrangement to check design choices.
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Franck
7/5/2022 04:03:36 pm
As indicated above, we need information on the nature of these « flammable solids ». By nature, I also mean its « form ». For example, with pyrophoric metal, titanium is flammable when present in the form of finely divided scraps or dust (can even become a dust explosion hazard) and water is generally prohibited as a fire extinguishing media. But the same metal in bars, plates… is not a problem.
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Christine Hoefflin
7/6/2022 12:26:57 am
Thank you for the responses. I now know it is a cellulose nitrate membrane material, cartoned (not a metal). It is not water reactive. This directs me to FM 7-86, although it is not a wetted powder or fibre. It is also not stored in drums. However the fire hazard may be similar, at least once it burns. If we do not receive fire test results, it seems to me that storing it in a separate room and choosing sprinkler protection according to FM 7-29 (as explained in FM 7-86) is justified.
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Alex
7/9/2022 09:54:06 pm
Hi,
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