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How to Recertify or Address Old FRT Wood?

11/21/2023

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I am working on a project that has Fire-Retardant-Treated (FRT) wood that is over 50-years old.

The wood is installed in a conditioned space (not subjected to sunlight or rain, heated and cooled with moisture levels maintained like any building). The wood had different manufacturers with varying labels, but two did list the chemical used as PROTEXOL.

I'm struggling to find information for the efficacy of the FRT wood after so many years.

Do you have any information or recommendations for recertifying FRT wood with lab testing for the presence of the correct chemicals or subjecting samples to ASTM/UL/NFPA?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Dan Wilder
11/21/2023 08:59:29 am

Depending on how it was applied will play into its lifespan. Surface applied, dipped, pressure treated....also the location..was it near heavy humidity and/or heat areas (boilers, steam lines, pipe chases, heaters, southern exposure vs northern, snow/ice loading). Conditioned spaces aside, there will still be variations so providing a solid test sample criteria will be important, also assuming that the pieces can be removed without impacting the structure.

You could reach out to NGC and see if they have procedures and protocols for recertification.

https://www.ngctestingservices.com/

Like many things with older construction (when they built things to last, not just to be easily replaced), it is likely still viable and has years left, proving it is another matter.

https://ia802503.us.archive.org/18/items/protexol-corp.-1946/Protexol%20Corp.%201946_text.pdf

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Conrad
11/21/2023 11:56:15 am

If the intent is to avoid adding sprinklers to an existing combustible concealed space (or to prove it is limited combustible), it may be more cost effective to clad the 50 year old wood in something acceptable to the AHJ like a layer or two of drywall.

Might be a reach so forgive me if I am incorrect.

This is reminding me of a smoldering fire in the fireproof coating on steel beams in a commercial attic. The coating worked but somehow it also smoldered which involved scraping off the coating in an attic you could not standup in. Maintenance used it as a storage room and to charge tool batteries.

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Jack G
11/21/2023 01:00:59 pm

I ve found that “ fire treated wood “ shrinks thru the years causing weakened structural strength fasteners popping. Lasalle Library in Philadelphia they had to rip the roof off and replace it with normal wood and fire sprinklers. Have an engineer check it out before doing anything to it.

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Greg
11/27/2023 11:08:30 am

As it happens, I was observing some construction in my home town that was using d-blaze plywood. Thinking about the full lifecycle of the commercial-residential building, I looked up the manufacturer's cut sheet to understand how long the treatment would last. Basically, the same question you are asking but at the beginning of the building's life. A bit of reverse engineering in comparing the old product to a similar new product may be useful. In other words, a comparison to the pressure impregnation process and the chemical used in that treatment to the chemicals used today and treatment process. Also, was there any UL testing that covered the product then, and is it similar to the testing of today. Interestingly, the fact sheet for d-blaze is not stating any period of ineffectiveness, assuming all conditions are maintained.

From the Fact Sheet online, it states,
"HOW LONG WILL THE TREATMENT LAST?
D-Blaze® fire retardant treated wood is designed for above ground use that is sheltered from precipitation and direct wetting. Under these conditions, D-Blaze chemicals will not leach out and will remain stable and effective"

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Greg
11/27/2023 11:18:08 am

this might help in your efforts to backtrack across listings. d-blaze is stated as listed on this webpage from California. Possibly, there is a trail to follow to previous similar listings.

https://osfm.fire.ca.gov/what-we-do/fire-engineering-and-investigations/building-materials-listing

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