I am working on a NFPA 13R 3-story apartment building.
The Labor & Industries (Washington State) compliance elevator inspector is requiring sprinklers in the pit and in the machine room, because it has more than 2 occupants and it is a commercial elevator.
Can someone clarify if Labor & Industries requirements do not follow NFPA standards? If they do not, do their requirement supersede adopted NFPA standards?
Have others ran into similar situations like this?
Thanks in advance.
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1/3/2023 05:53:53 am
Washington State adopts the Safety Code for Elevators and Escalators 2016 amended from ASME A17.1. 22.214.171.124 states that "sprinkler systems conforming to NFPA 13 or the NBCC, whichever is applicable, shall be permitted to be installed in the hoist way, machinery space, machine room, control space, or control room.."
1/3/2023 08:22:45 am
13R wouldn't require it, so I would presume its in their local or state amendments or some other code the AJ has.
1/3/2023 08:28:07 am
My experience is that the elevator inspector will review his items only. Basically are sprinklers provided - yes or no? Do the elevators have the Phase 1 and Phase 2 Operations? He will not check to see if the sprinklers are in compliance with NFPA.
Todd E Wyatt
1/3/2023 09:01:31 am
1/3/2023 09:56:56 am
Know that almost every state has a different take on the elevator code as related to sprinkler. And in most cases the elevator inspector will reign in that kingdom. For instance King county Washington requires a normally closed monitored valve for the elevator equipment room sprinkler. Port of Seattle has their own rules which are different from WA State and NFPA 13. In Washington you are also dealing with competing government agencies that have to remain relevant. DOD and GSA also have different requirements from all others. The elevator sprinkler has been a point of frustration for many years.
1/3/2023 11:24:41 am
Ditto Todd and Ken. And making it more confusing, after 2016, L&I determined its safety rules were not consistent with ASME, and began a rule changing process. As you have probably noticed, one result is that sections of the WAC we grew to know and love for as long as I can remember, such as 296-96-0245, were eliminated. See also adopted standards chart on WAC 296-96-00650.
1/3/2023 11:33:48 am
Oh, and let's not even get into elevator pit sump pumps, and those rule changes.
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