We have a car park area which is part of a bigger development that we are sub-dividing into different pressure zones due to it being a very tall building. The three levels of car park in total are less than 65-ft (20 m) high, but they are very long and wide. My question is about sprinkler control valve areas.
I know for ordinary hazard the restriction per floor from one riser is 52,000 sqft (4830 sqm) with no restriction as you go up. Does that mean for a wide, low-level building, say on 1 level, do we need a system riser for each 52,000 sqft? This seems pretty onerous to me, as FM Global do not even insist on this. Here in England, the restriction is 12,000 sqm x 10 floors per valve. I'm being asked by the authorities to allow the valves, but is that restriction of 52,000 sqft (4830 sqm) per valve set on a single floor set in stone? Can we do something based on hydraulic calculation that is more user friendly? Thanks in advance.
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Glenn Berger
12/18/2023 08:10:59 am
The 52,000 square feet is published in NFPA 13, as such that is the closest to being "set in stone" as possible.
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franck
12/18/2023 08:26:00 am
No deviation allowed.
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David Kendrick
12/18/2023 09:36:30 am
Researching the reason for the 52,000 square feet might give reason to consider modification.
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Kim O
12/18/2023 09:52:06 am
Yes, 52,000 square feet is as large as a system can be on one level. It is in NFPA 13. That's for Light and Ordinary Hazards. It's 40,000 for Extra Hazard.
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Casey Milhorn
12/18/2023 09:55:37 am
I believe there is a proposed change coming to NFPA 13 to increase the areas by 150%. I haven't seen an update on this in the last month or so. Not sure where it currently stands.
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Dan Wilder
12/18/2023 09:59:06 am
As allowed, and depending on which edition year being referenced, yes 52K ft² is the maximum for any single zone regardless of building height or breadth of a structure for the occupancy you stated.
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Thanks to everyone for your responses- much appreciated. Just to clarify, can a sprinkler control valve set serve risers in individual stair cores, with zone valves on, each covering 52,000 ft2 or is the restriction on the control valve itself covering 52,000 ft2 per floor? If we had one set of control valves covering 2 risers in a stair could we allow 52,000 ft2 x 2 on the same floor with a branch from each riser? Hard to put into words so I hope I’ve made it clear. Thanks again.
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Connor R
12/18/2023 12:44:39 pm
NFPA-13-2019 4.5.1 states "The maximum floor area on any one floor to be protected by sprinklers supplied by any one sprinkler system riser" shall be 52,000 sq ft for Ordinary Hazard.
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franck
12/18/2023 10:16:46 am
The size limitation is not only for technical reasons related to layout and optimized pipe sizing. Of course systems are better designed today than in the old time of pipe schedule installations. But there is still a financial or risk limit.
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Jesse
12/18/2023 12:49:39 pm
Yep, the 52,0000 is pretty solid. And all of the reasons described in replies above mine are why
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Dwight Havens
12/18/2023 04:01:14 pm
I think an explanation of the reason for the size limitations would help. This will require research in the NFPA codes and standards, and the building codes that were in effect at the time this requirement was established. My understanding is that the area limitations were based on a desire to minimize the risk presented to the building and the occupants, should a system be out of service. From a code perspective, this limits the resource needed to establish a fire watch, or the need to shut down the use of that portion of a building while the system is out of service. I also seem to remember, early in my career, that the 52,000 square feet, (or 40.000 square feet in some cases) corresponded with the maximum allowable fire area at that time, thus subdivision to limit loss potential was also used.
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Pete D.
12/19/2023 09:20:41 pm
It's per level.
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sean
12/31/2023 06:06:13 pm
anytime you go over 52k sq.ft. you need to have another system.
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