I am a recent architectural graduate designing and developing a small apartment building with a robust dedicated bike storage room (in lieu of car parking). The goal is to foster sustainable, walkable, urban design.
My concern is the recent and growing occurrence of e-bike electrical fires often triggered by non-UL certified lithium batteries. As I understand it, electrical fires are a different animal than your traditional wood fuel fire, in so far as effective suppression, burn rate, etc. Does current code satisfy any electrical fire concerns? Does NFPA 13 or even 13R provide sufficient protection for tenants and occupants in this new e-bike era? Is this a topic of discussion among the ICC and code communities? Concerned and looking out for safety. Thanks in advance. Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Dan Wilder
9/27/2022 08:01:42 am
13R definitely not.13 has no guidance specific to battery charging stations or e-vehicle parking yet. I know that NFPA is actively working to address it, I can't speak to the ICC.
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Anthony
9/27/2022 08:05:57 am
As Dan said there is very little code. We do have plenty of data however to best design and protect these areas as Dan has shown with his links above.
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Greg
9/27/2022 08:11:35 am
You're correct in a concern regarding charging and batteries with rapid charging features. One of the best ways to understand potential charging problems is to read the manufacturer's instructions and warnings associated with the charging system. Length of time for charge, rapid charging, wire size requirements, fuse, GFCI are all considerations to properly design a system that will receive frequent use.
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Casey Milhorn
9/27/2022 08:41:27 am
Great question and all good comments. I would suggest a fire rated room, maybe even up to two hours, minimum of one hour. Detection of course, and an increased density for that one room. Extra Hazard Grp 1 at minimum. 11.2K minimum sprinklers (from everything I've read, more water, more water, and even more water on those types of fires). That means instead of a normal 2" or 4" service to the building, you might want 6" (depending on size and demand for that room). Step 1 is prevention, step 2 is detection, and step 3 is control/extinguishment.
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Brian Cockburn
9/27/2022 09:52:13 am
As others have said, this is a new area of research and there aren't any firm guidelines yet.
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Franck
9/27/2022 09:57:22 am
Hi Brian
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Jesse
9/27/2022 11:50:54 am
I have to second what Franck said here. While the e-bike batteries are indeed smaller, in aggregate they pose more risk and more opportunities for ignition. I wouldn't even consider OH-1 as a design criteria. EH-1 would be appropriate.
Brian Cockburn
9/27/2022 11:56:55 am
Hey Franck,
Naseer Pasha
9/28/2022 01:32:56 am
Yes, thermal runaway is the main concern. Have a look at this news: https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/crime/270922/clues-fire-broke-out-due-to-overheating-of-electric-vehicles.html
Franck
9/28/2022 02:19:09 am
You can also have a look at these recent publications from NFPA regarding e-bikes (to be ban from public buildings in NY ?)
Brian Cockburn
9/28/2022 12:47:15 pm
I've read those articles, and the links posted by others. They don't speak to what I said earlier about e-bike batteries not being an ESS and falling under NFPA 855. It is the wrong standard to apply here.
Franck
9/27/2022 09:52:27 am
This is definetely a growing concern for the very next future (in combination with photovoltaic panels put on roofs, but this is another story).
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Tim
9/28/2022 01:35:09 am
I am not convinced that large amounts of water is always the appropriate solution to all Li-Ion battery hazard. The problem is penetration of your extinguishing medium in this case water. Vehicles are generally designed to keep water out. Further batteries are always installed under the vehicle and also placed centre towards the back. Application of high density from the top do not really get to the seat of the fire in the case of EV's.
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Franck
9/30/2022 09:36:49 am
You're probably right in saying that sprinklers from the top will probably not extinguish the fire at the batteries that are located underneath the car and pretty well protected from the water spray.
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Brian Hoole
10/12/2022 03:01:44 pm
I would venture that increasing the overhead protection in a parking garage is important due to modern vehicles having more plastic in their composition. Whereas the charging stations for electronic vehicles would be similar to a utility closet in an apartment in that the area should not increase the hazard of the greater area. However, Grate Nozzles as seen in aircraft hangers or a reduced size version should be considered for protection beneath the vehicles at the charging stations similar to protection beneath an aircraft. Through application of water from above and below at the charging stations since they have the highest hazard the fires should be more easily controlled.
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10/21/2022 02:29:27 pm
Hi everyone!
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