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Any Contact Allowed with Sprinkler Pipe?

10/23/2018

19 Comments

 
Have a project which requires very tight coordination between sprinkler and ductwork. The ductwork will be lined with insulation which could come in contact with the black steel fire sprinkler pipe. Is there a minimum clearance required that wouldn't permit this contact by code?

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Bruce Seiler
10/24/2018 09:14:50 am

Recently, we have had inspectors site other items touching sprinkler pipe as a violation. This wasn't a case of something laying on top of the pipe adding, albeit small, weight to the sprinkler system. They were instances of other systems touching the sprinkler pipe, whether it be duct, insulation, wire. I'd be interested in thoughts and code references on the matter as well. Good question.

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Scott Walter McBride
10/24/2018 09:27:38 am

there is a clearance section, which is 9.3.4.

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sean
10/24/2018 10:58:22 am

The section does not appear to address other building systems but structural and framing items.

Burnet Glover
8/19/2020 10:00:46 am

I have a similar condition where structural members and electrical conduit greater than 2” dia. are in contact with the sprinkler main supply piping, greater than 6 inch in diameter. I was only able to find clearance requirements under Section 9.3 of the 2016 edition of NFPA 13 under Protection of piping against seismic conditions. Is there a requirement in NFPA 13 for a minimum clearance around sprinkler piping.

Anthony Alarcon
7/30/2020 09:47:04 pm

Is there a code requirement that says Sprinkler Piping must maintain a certain distance from fireproofing sprayed onto structural steel?

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zubair ahmed
8/25/2021 01:03:41 pm

Hi Anthony
i am interested in knowing the answer to your question

please let me know


regards

Rebecca
5/2/2023 09:52:06 am

Chapter 17.1.3.1 of NFPA 13- "Sprinkler piping or hangers shall not be used to support non-system components."

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Michael Watkins
3/1/2024 01:33:01 pm

Required clearance from OH Sprinkler pipe is 3 inches.

ASCE 7 - 13.2.3.1 Clearances between Equipment, Distribution Systems, Supports, and Sprinkler System Drops and Sprigs. The installed clearance between any sprinkler drop or sprig and the following items shall be at least 3 in. (75 mm) in all directions:

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Dave L.
10/24/2018 11:30:03 am

Interesting point, and agree with Sean - Although some common sense and judgement should prevail, I am not away of any code reference pertaining to clearance to other mechanical systems; just structure. It is assumed if this is in a seismic zone, that the mechanical systems are properly restrained, and that the sprinkler system piping is braced and branch lines are properly restrained, vertically and laterally. And of course things cannot be resting on the pipe; NFPA 25 comes to mind on that. And on CPVC pipe there are compatibility issues with anything touching the pipe.

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Michael Watkins
3/1/2024 01:37:21 pm

ASCE 7-16 Section 13.2.3.1 requires 3 inches minimum in all directions.

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EdwH
10/24/2018 01:36:00 pm

NFPA 13-2016

9.3.4.9 The installed horizontal and upward vertical clearance
between horizontal sprinkler piping and structural members
not penetrated or used, collectively or independently, to
support the piping shall be at least 2 in. (50 mm).

This addresses structural members or anything supporting the pipe.

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HARRIS link
3/10/2020 09:50:41 am

As far as my research into this original question, there is no reason pipe cant have duct touching the bottom side (nothing in fire code prevents this unless it is CPVC). It seems fire marshals who arent 100% sure will fall on the side of safety and uphold the CPVC pipe requirement (not touching anything) for steel pipe. I do know it is an issue if inspectors cannot visually see the pipe from below for inspections, but otherwise most dont mind.

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Jonathan Key
5/19/2020 08:48:47 am

Expanding on this, I have a question. Referencing 9.3.4.9 Does this mean that if i run a sprinkler line underneath an I beam or Bar joist i cannot be within 2" of any structural member with the top of the sprinkler pipe? Say 1" below the beam?

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Shawn P Jones
8/27/2021 09:25:09 am

Unless you are in an area prone to earthquakes that code section would not apply.

Augustine Moreno
5/18/2021 11:52:56 pm

I have a sprinkler system in obstruction with my hvac unit
I need to be sure of how much clearance away from the water pipe i need for clearance

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Michael Watkins
3/1/2024 01:39:31 pm

ASCE 7-16 Section 13.2.3.1 requires 3 inches clearance in all directions.

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M.Alaniz
12/15/2023 10:38:24 am

I found this: NFPA25 Inspections- 5.2.2.2 : Sprinkler piping shall not be subjected to external loads by materials either resting on the pipe or hung from the pipe.

If there is duct/ duct wrap resting on sprinkler pipe, has anyone used a corrosion control tape to keep the friction from reducing on the pipe? something similar to Polyken 826? Would this be applied to the duct work above the pipe?
nothing should be stuck directly on the pipe...
Thoughts?

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Michael Watkins
3/1/2024 01:42:58 pm

Required clearance from OH Sprinkler pipe is 3 inches.

ASCE 7-16 Section 13.2.3.1 Clearances between Equipment, Distribution Systems, Supports, and Sprinkler System Drops and Sprigs. The installed clearance between any sprinkler drop or sprig and the following items shall be at least 3 in. (75 mm) in all directions:

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Richard G. Rael
9/23/2024 02:15:41 pm

With the understanding that wires, cables, piping, ducting etc.etc can NOT touch the fire sprinkler pipe my question is, can those items touch any of the struts, fasteners, all-thread OR is it anything that has to do with the sprinkler system can not be touched.

Thanks,


Rick Rael
505-252-1562

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