NFPA 13R Section 9.3.1 talks about accounting for domestic flow "unless provisions are made to prevent the domestic waterflow on sprinkler system activation."
We have a low-rise apartment building that is four stories tall, under NFPA 13R. The sprinkler system can be supplied via a 6-inch service from a nearby main, but when domestic (2" or 2 1/2") is added it would require an expensive run to a remote main and an 8-inch service. The MEP engineers are sort of shrugging at questions and would love to be paid to entirely re-design the system unless we tell them what to do/use. I don't know the correct terminology to find the elements of a system that would cut off the domestic tap when the fire system activates. What is that called in the trade? Am I correct in understanding that the sprinkler system has a flow sensor that activates when a sprinkler flows water, and this would then trigger alarms and as part of that, do something like activate a solenoid valve cutting off the domestic tap? Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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RyanO
6/3/2024 08:08:15 am
I believe the Tyco RSV-1 will accomplish what you are looking for.
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Dan Wilder
6/3/2024 08:11:48 am
These are used for smaller residential projects, but I've used the Tyco RSV-1 in the past (up to 2").
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Makc
6/3/2024 08:13:17 am
There is Tyco valve RSV-1 but it comes in 1" and 2" sizes only. Can the system be designed as NFPA 13 system and 100gpm hose allowance? Although I had engineers request to add domestic flow even for full NFPA 13 systems. How many gallons of domestic demand is required?
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Glenn Berger
6/3/2024 08:13:32 am
You basically have it correct. I would not "power" the shut-off of the other water systems through the flow switch (or pressure switch). I would recommend that the fire alarm control panel provide the signal to the building controller for the other system.
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Jesse
6/3/2024 12:58:16 pm
Going to a full 13 design and using a hose allowance would negate the domestic demand, but as the law of unintended consequences rears its head you end up protecting attics / concealed space.
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Jack G
6/3/2024 02:53:22 pm
The tyco valve is a good one. Working with a fire alarm panel is best. However that adds considerable cost to the owner, if he does not need a f.a. Panel.
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