This feels like a silly question, but we have high-piled, non-combustible storage, with open-grate or solid level single/double row permanent racks with Extra Hazard Group 2 overhead system.
I'm trying to identify the actual code verbiage that says nothing is required from an code/NFPA standpoint. The product is metallic car parts with no added materials, just exposed solid metal, no plastic gaskets or spacers, etc. The 2015 IFC is the highest code in my jurisdiction, so starting with that, Chapter 32 is for High-Piled "Combustible" Storage and provides no avenue for code justification. NFPA 13-2013 defines "Noncombustible Material & Automotive Components on Portable Racks" but also gives no criteria for non-combustible storage. FM Global Data Sheet 8-1 actually lists noncombustible as a commodity classification, unlike NFPA 13, but does not provide a criteria stating no coverage. Is this just the simple scenario where code or NFPA standards don't list a requirement or criteria because it just doesn't require anything? Again I feel like it's a silly question given the commodity but I believe the only rules to follow would be obstruction rules and distance from deflector to storage. Thoughts? Thanks in advance. Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Matt
4/3/2023 08:14:25 am
First thing, classify the occupancy using the adopted IBC (Maybe Group S-2).
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Todd E Wyatt
4/3/2023 10:35:16 am
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Todd E Wyatt
4/3/2023 10:35:37 am
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Bobby V
4/3/2023 08:47:43 am
First off, l'm not sure what you mean by " nothing is required from an code/NFPA standpoint." Do you mean leave the existing OH2 as is, or are you trying to justify a sprinkler system is not required?
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Dan Wilder
4/3/2023 08:53:49 am
So the commodity is non-combustible (Class I, maybe a II), what about the pallets? Reinforced plastic pallets would drive you into a Class III/IV automatically. standard plastic or wood pallets would push you to a Class II/III (again depending on where you start for the commodity itself). Anything about idle pallet storage within the racking as well?
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Franck
4/3/2023 09:52:03 am
I saw your configuration sometimes in the automotive industry, as well as in steel plants.
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Anthony
4/3/2023 11:14:57 am
This (good work Franck), Also check IBC for S-2 and F occupancy over 12K sqft requirements.
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Jesse
4/3/2023 10:14:06 am
Linke Frank, I've seen this too in automotive mfg. You stated no packaging, but I'm wondering if there are pallets.
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Sundance Bob
4/3/2023 10:55:39 am
Non-combustible is Class 1 commodities per NFPA-13.
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Todd E Wyatt
4/3/2023 03:15:56 pm
“HIGH-PILED” is referenced per the scoping Code (e.g. 2021 IBC) (9) time in “Chapter 9 Fire Protection and Life Safety Systems” :
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Franck
4/4/2023 11:22:16 pm
Class I means something to burn, i.e. pallets or packaging.
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8/4/2023 07:52:14 pm
I have a related situation.
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