Question submitted from Joe Meyer as pertains to a whitepaper in the works for ESFR systems:
Many of us have come to the realization that with ESFR systems, the "building is designed around the sprinkler." That adage seems to be more and more true with each ESFR system. What advice would you offer to architects and structural engineers on the "best ways" to design around ESFR; making the building more ESFR-friendly? Thanks in advance! Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Dan Wilder
11/14/2023 07:04:13 am
Of the top of my head....
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Pete H
11/14/2023 07:12:47 am
Advice for NFPA 13 design only, not FM:
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Pete H
11/14/2023 08:02:34 am
Oh and no ceilings with a slope greater than 2 in 12. Flat ceilings as much as possible.
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Michelle L
11/14/2023 08:35:39 am
If a fire pump is necessary, provide a large enough room for it and all required equipment. I ask for 20 x 20, though I understand that's not always possible.
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Pete D
11/14/2023 08:52:00 am
A couple of things come to mind. 1st. The architect must be cognizant that his warehouse TOS dimension is limited in height, if he wants to design a building protected by ESFR. There are some specially listed sprinklers that raise the roof (so to speak), but outside of those raised limits the only other options are to protect with a different strategy or install a ceiling.
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Jesse
11/14/2023 09:43:23 am
Great post Joe!
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Casey Milhorn
11/14/2023 09:50:39 am
All great comments. There is a lot going on right now around the K28 heads from Reliable and the K34 from Tyco. They have some very specialized listings that will allow for higher buildings/storage, tighter aisles, tighter flue spaces, that all could be very very attractive to the end user and maximize their storage space. This is HUGE to them. Design the building around the tenant's needs, but incorporate a specific ESFR head up front.
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Brian Cockburn
11/14/2023 09:55:10 am
Make sure seismic requirements are thought through if you're in an earthquake zone. Early coordination between the Fire Protection and Structural Engineer will pay off here.
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Cesar Reyna
11/14/2023 11:36:45 am
Ensure that the ceiling height/roof height based on the ESFR design criteria is closely coordinated during construction and well documented on the Architectural sections.
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NK
11/14/2023 11:49:46 am
1) NFPA 13, 2022 §14.2.11.3.2 (1) "Where the bottom cord is 6" or less in width, the sprinkler shall be located a minimum of 6 in. horizontally from the nearest edge of the bottom chord."
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11/14/2023 01:03:59 pm
If possible, try to locate the water entry/fire pump room as close to the ESFR hazard as possible (or vice versa) - to minimize large pipe runs.
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Franck
11/14/2023 11:37:26 pm
In addition to all the very interesting above mentioned comments (I particularly liked the concerns for fire pump room size… too many are just too small and make them difficult to turn around equipment during maintenance and testing).:
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Anthony
11/15/2023 12:47:42 pm
Architects should not specify ESFR, only the specific hazard to be protected. they typically do because with ESFR then they do not need smoke and heat venting. Now we have multiple options for this protection scheme not just ESFR like CMSA and EC25.
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DE
11/16/2023 01:42:56 pm
1. Coordinate RTU locations around ESFR sprinklers
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sean
11/16/2023 06:45:12 pm
clear understanding of the proposed storage...
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sean
12/31/2023 11:29:54 pm
truly know and communicate the storage and use. stop with wishy washy use cases.
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