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Following up on the recent post about components of a wet-pipe riser assembly, I have noticed many contractors (including places where I have worked) typically install a basic shotgun-style riser with no check valves on the riser assembly, while others opt for a riser check or individual check valves added to the shotgun risers as their standard. (I'm not talking alarm valves)
I know sometimes there are benefits to having check on individual risers, but in cases where the check is not a requirement, what are the considerations people factor-in when making the decision whether or not to install riser checks? Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Doug
8/18/2025 08:20:46 am
From a fitters view, I have seen on multi- story buildings with floor control valves and no check valve. When one system is drained and then refilled, water would drain from other systems to equalize and then multiple system flow switches would activate.
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Dan Wilder
8/18/2025 08:28:26 am
Serviceability, reliability, material and labor costs
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Glenn Berger
8/18/2025 09:27:54 am
Adding to Doug's response:
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Christopher Nelson
8/18/2025 10:05:36 am
From a designers perspective, building size and how much space is given to me by the mean architects.
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OP
8/18/2025 12:28:28 pm
From a design standpoint, with an alarm check, if not using a remote inspector's test (or combined remote aux drain / inspector's test), do you y'all tend to just come off above the flow switch with a 1" loop with sight glass & orifice tied to main drain? (I know one company who got a deal on 1" test-and-drains.)
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Pete H
8/18/2025 12:46:06 pm
Adding to Chris' Response: Or if I know something is happening in the future. That can also factor into it.
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danefre
8/18/2025 03:35:34 pm
From the contractor's side, our standard policy is to include a check valve when more than one system is involved. This approach addresses the service concerns outlined above and offers a low-cost way to enhance the overall quality and reliability of the system for the client.
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OP
8/20/2025 10:33:57 am
Thank you all. This shows once again the benefits of this wide-reaching Forum, and that someone as long-in-the-tooth as I, yet in a regional silo, I is still learning.
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Jack G
8/22/2025 08:43:23 pm
I like shot gun checks from a maintenance stand point as it puts all the test requirements on one valve. Before and after chec gauge, and drain valve to drain or perform drain tests. I don’t like pipe o lets for the drain or pressure gauge. Ninimum size outlet welded for a pressure gauge is 1 inch for most welding machines.
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James Art, Fire Protection Engr
8/27/2025 05:04:33 pm
"Minimum Code"
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