I hear so many times that if the fire alarm panel dies, the entire building's fire alarm system must be brought up to current code.
Can anyone educate the world on when building fire alarm systems must be completely upgraded to the current code? The International Existing Building Code (IEBC) Section 6 lists all possible combinations. Level 1, level 2, and Level 3. None of them require a full upgrade to the current code when the main panel hits its end of life. If a system was to need to replace all items in its location with a different system, reusing locations and wire, it would not meet a Level 3 requirement alone and would simply be using new equipment or fixtures that serve the same purpose. Can someone give me an actual code path that requires a full upgrade in this scenario? Thanks in advance. Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Dan Wilder
12/13/2024 07:03:41 am
It will be in the adopted fire codes for your AHJ, likely an amendment.
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Glenn Berger
12/13/2024 08:47:29 am
I cannot give a direct path for when the entire system must be made compliant with current codes, but the codes are clear for projects that involve renovations then compliance with current codes is required.
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Ricardo Gonzales Jr
12/13/2024 08:54:37 am
I disagree. The IBC/IFC doesn't state if the panel is replace it's a new system. This falls into a maintenance issue and NFPA 72 requires a full system test since a new program is being downloaded. 100% is expected as the panel is the only piece that contains how the system functions.
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Jose Figueroa
12/13/2024 09:53:06 am
I’d like to offer some considerations:
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Jesse
12/13/2024 11:59:53 am
This is going to be more of an AHJ issue. We're not talking about a major renovation that meets a percentage threshold, but rather a component, albeit major one, failure.
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Jose R Figueroa
12/13/2024 12:31:57 pm
I wanted to share my recent experience with a hotel in the Caribbean. The alarm main control panel encountered recurrent false alarms, which prompted a review of the entire alarm system. Unfortunately, the general contractor could not source a replacement unit of the same model and manufacturing year. Instead, they opted for a modern fire alarm control panel and all necessary components for the upgrade. This change resolved the issue and aligned with the new owner's desire for the system to comply with NFPA 101 standards. The island doesn't have the equivalent of an AHJ like the ones in more developed countries.
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12/16/2024 10:40:39 am
The system owner shall replace required fire alarm systems than cannot be serviced or repaired to eliminate system imparements or chronic nuisance alarms. [1:13.7.1.5.7]
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Matt
12/18/2024 08:50:54 am
This is a great question that I've never seen a very good answer to. I've worked as both an AHJ and designer and from my experience the codes that I've primarily worked in (IBC/IFC/IEBC) don't ever explicitly require an existing system to be fully upgraded to meet current code, but there are some sections that kind of force your hand that direction.
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David Klein
12/18/2024 06:29:26 pm
NFPA 72 2022 chapter 13 for ITM is for both new and existing systems and such shall be tested in accordance with that. If there are ITM actions that cannot occur due to the age, replace it. 100% the AHJ will work to allow a phased in approach for replacement..
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