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When does a Community Room trigger the need to use NFPA 13 as opposed to NFPA 13R? If the first floor of a 3-story apartment building is a meeting room, does the building, or perhaps the first floor need to meet NFPA 13? Thanks in advance.
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Kyle
9/9/2025 08:46:53 am
The best guidance I've found on this topic comes from the IBC commentary related to section 903.3.1.2.
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Brett
9/9/2025 10:56:35 am
I disagree with not sprinklering the assembly occupancy.
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Connor
9/10/2025 03:55:49 pm
To clarify, I don't think he's saying the Group A-3 does not need to be sprinklered, but rather that the A-3 portion does not exceed the threshold to require sprinkler and is therefore not the driving requirement. If the A-3 exceeded the threshold in Chapter 9 to require sprinkler, NFPA 13 would apply throughout the building.
Jesse
9/9/2025 08:53:54 am
Yep what Kyle said. But always check with your AHJ. We hada similar issue in my area where the AHJ amended that section of the IBC to require full 13.
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Anthony
9/9/2025 09:27:46 am
I'd say the common area falls under the exceptions in 6.2.2.2 (13R-16) specifically:
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Jack G
9/9/2025 09:30:53 am
There is a 13 v 13r v 13 d chart in IBC commentary and Myerfire.
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Jose R Figueroa
9/9/2025 09:55:05 am
Your building is a low-rise structure. Use NFPA 13R and consult your AHJ. Using NFPA 13 will not significantly increase costs.
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Anthony
9/9/2025 09:59:24 am
Respectfully using full 13 will increase costs significantly assuming you'll most likely have a dry system for the attic.
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Wes
9/9/2025 11:00:32 am
Second this; even for lowrises the combustible concealed spaces and attics can make a major difference in net cost.
Taylor Jenkins
9/9/2025 07:43:56 pm
Check with your local amendments also. In Mass, if the building is classified as a "mixed-use" and contains any "Group R" occupancy, the entire building must be provided with sprinkler protection, regardless of fire areas, size of each occupancy, etc...
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Todd Wyatt
9/10/2025 08:54:15 am
The scoping Code (e,g, IBC-2024) determines WHERE an automatic sprinkler system (ASPS) is required :
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