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Regarding the QR sprinkler reduction: where does the -3 formula slope come from and where does the +55 come from in the equation Y= -3x /2 +55?
I've asked a few designers and they don't know. They said it is just something that is "Baked in," much like the Hazen-Williams formula, which includes elements we just accept. However, I'm just curious and like knowing things like that. Thanks for any help. Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Pete H
8/25/2025 06:27:57 am
Source is AI, so take it with a grain of salt:
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Anthony
8/25/2025 07:50:37 am
Can't comment on the QR formula but to "baked in" and "just accept" portion of the post I would say the following: Empirical formula are based on observed data and a best "fit line" is added. Goes like this: get a bunch of data points, as many as you can, and draw a line that best describes those plotted data. That line can be expressed as formula. So the -3 and +55 don't "mean" anything they are an expression of the data and create the best fit line in the units used.
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Josh
8/25/2025 08:12:11 am
This is the correct answer to the question about the numbers. The trendline will always have a formula associated with it.
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Dan Wilder
8/25/2025 08:15:04 am
Little digging but here ya go. IF I can find the reports from reputable links I'll post as a reply.
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Dan Wilder
8/25/2025 08:58:46 am
As the info came from the Technical Committee, notes are not going to be easily available but below was the introduction of the section and formula.
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Franck
8/25/2025 10:08:25 am
As indicated by Dan, Pete, Josh and Anthony, it is just a way to illustrate what was obtained from the tests. If with QR we have fewer sprinklers operating, then maybe we can adjust the design requirements.
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Jack G
8/25/2025 11:28:53 am
I go back to 1956. From what I recall, the committee didn’t use any testing, in 2007, when they added the qr reduction formula. They developed it from a concept that quicker activation could control the fire and use less water and make sprinklers more affordable.
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James Art
8/27/2025 04:35:51 pm
NOTE the reduction in area is NOT permitted in CA for Ordinary Hazard, only for Light Hazard.
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