NFPA 13 9.3.5.11.6 states 'For longitudinal braces only, the brace shall be permitted to be connected to a tab welded to the pipe in conformance to 6.5.2' 6.5.2.2.3 specifies that 'Tabs for longitudinal earthquake bracing shall be permitted to be welded to in-place piping where the welding process is performed in accordance with NFPA 51B.'
Section 6.5.2.4.7 states ' Tabs for longitudinal earthquake bracing shall have minimum throat weld thickness not less than 1.25 times the pipe wall thickness and welded on both sides of the longest dimension.' My questions are: Is anybody using this method for longitudinal bracing? How do you calculate a brace using this configuration? Is there a tab on the market specifically for this application? Additionally, is Section 6.5.2.2.3 suggesting that tabs are only permitted to be welded in field? We do giant open warehouses where bracing typically can go exactly where the plan shows it. We fab 90% of our pipe in-house, and if we could specify the tab's location on the fab listings, we could potentially get rid of 212 pipe clamps for all longitudinal bracing. Besides the obvious install issue of 'it might not work in the exact location it's welded' - am I missing something...? Thanks in advance. Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Jose Figueroa
12/26/2024 12:19:44 pm
Given my background in the insurance sector, I would like to share some insights on this topic that may be relevant to discussions originating from California, Oregon, or Washington.
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Glenn Berger
12/26/2024 03:13:11 pm
Very thoughtful response. Thanks for providing.
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Dave L.
12/27/2024 04:56:00 pm
Interesting. “IS” anybody using this method? I am curious, too. Because I remember for a short time (80’s or 90’s) we sometimes did this, but I don’t remember continuing the practice. Especially after bracing-specific attachments came around. I happen to have the 1987 edition on my desk and is specifically says in the Annex, “The brace should not be connected to a tab welded on the pipe.” But I see at least by the 1996 edition it is mentioned in the main body, and in modified form, remains allowed in the 2025 edition.
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Joe. W
1/2/2025 07:58:35 am
I don't believe welding tabs on the pipe would be advantageous unless you are operating your own fab shop. Also handling the pipe in the field would be more complicated with tabs welded on. The tabs would also need to line up with structural members whereas bolt on braces are adjustable in the field.
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