To what extent are sprinklers required for an above-ceiling mechanical platform in noncombustible construction?
See the building section attached. In this case, the platform is nearly the full length of a classroom building.
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Anthony
7/31/2024 07:35:11 am
Sprinklers are definitely required. Is there a way for a human to access the area? If yes, then its occupiable and thus requires sprinkler protection.
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Glenn Berger
7/31/2024 08:07:26 am
The fact that a platform is provided would require the installation of sprinklers in the ENTIRE space, if the facility is desired or required to be fully sprinklered.
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Todd E Wyatt
7/31/2024 08:10:07 am
Yes, an Automatic Sprinkler System (ASPS) is required here.
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Dan Wilder
7/31/2024 08:18:48 am
You may be able to utilize a hybrid version of 9.3.14 for sprinkler locations/limitations but that would extend a minimum of 24'. There is definitely a sprinkler requirement due to access, ability to store, and the mechanical equipment.
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James Phifer
7/31/2024 08:52:48 am
This is a non-combustible concealed space. Unless the platform is constructed of wood or other combustible materials or if there is fuel fired equipment, sprinklers should not be required.
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Jesse
7/31/2024 09:49:31 am
I can't see a circumstance where protection can be omitted. You're going to have mechanical equipment which is electrical in nature (and maybe combustion fuel trains?) and personnel have the ability to access it.
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Jack G
7/31/2024 10:17:46 am
On a mechanical equipment platform there usually is a trail of combustibles left behind by service men plus storage in the way of filters, foam insulation coated wire and more( why would they store that stuff anywhere else).
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Lawrence
7/31/2024 11:11:27 am
Wow! Same condition right now on job and sprink guy asking same question! Following another response I go for defaulting to requiring the sprinklers and asking AHJ for opinion in writing.
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Jack G
7/31/2024 11:53:48 am
Spot on. Good luck Lawrence !
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Chad
7/31/2024 02:03:04 pm
Serious question:
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Lawrence Stephens
7/31/2024 03:41:51 pm
that's the other half of my thinking also - fact is it must be occupied intermittently as HVAC gear requires regular maintenance, arguable and quite serious - where does the Christmas decorations, paper products, signage end up - you guessed it. Put in the sprinklers and you're not looking over your shoulder.
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Anthony
8/5/2024 09:58:35 am
NFPA 13 makes the distinction between mechanical equipment that has ports for human access and its housing environment.
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Robert W Hughes
7/31/2024 03:50:37 pm
James Phifer's interpretation seems correct to me, given the limited details. It is up to the owner to keep stored goods elsewhere, and they ALWAYS want to save money.
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RC
7/31/2024 04:29:23 pm
I agree, sprinkler the area. But to what extent? The platform area is open to the entire above ceiling space. Figure A.9.3.14.3 does not really reflect this condition.
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Mark Harris
8/5/2024 04:33:07 pm
Great discussions and my gut reaction based on construction agree with James about no- combustible space. But see the other arguments. Is there a stair that makes it a floor or does HVAC tech have to get to that unit through an acess panel through the main floor ceiling? I don't know where project is but if you do end up protecting confirm that attic will be over 40 degrees or you need to look at a dry system. If the only reason for sprinklers is the platform that could be an expensive platform when you add the cost of sprinklers in.
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