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I have a building where the 3rd floor is open to the structure. It is open-web joists (wood) with 2x6 members on top and bottom, and 1x6 supports. They are spaced 16" apart.
The bottom of the joist elevation is parallel with the floor throughout, but the top varies, as the roof slopes slightly. I cannot come up with a passable solution to sprinkler this area, since the joists are too close together to pass the 3X rule, and the bottom of the joist is more than 22" below deck for the majority of the space. How would you approach this from a sprinkler design perspective, considering the obstruction rules as well as unobstructed vs obstructed construction? Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Dan Wilder
6/24/2025 08:17:23 am
Well, applying 10.2.7.2.1.6 (19' edition) is out due to the spacing being less than 24" on center.
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Dan Wilder
6/24/2025 08:24:45 am
And as for spacing, 10.2.4.2.1 (19' Edition) for Combustible Obstructed with members less than 3' on center puts you at 130 ft² & max 15' on center, unless this turns into a combustible concealed space, then you may need to look at a combustible concealed space application. I am taking "slightly slopped" as less than 2:12 which doesn't trigger the 120 ft² and more restrictive spacing requirements along the slope.
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Jesse
6/24/2025 08:22:17 am
I love questions like this because they require some outside the box thought. I agree with Dan's assessment. I've posted the text from 10.2.7.2.1.7 here
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Anthony
6/24/2025 08:24:37 am
I wouldn't, call this obstructed construction. These joists are more than 70% open. I think you might have a shot for sprinklers in the A's and V's at their most open areas.
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Casey Milhorn
6/24/2025 08:57:40 am
Agree with Dan and Jesse. I think you have a shot at placing upright in the "A" centered on the truss, however I don't think you will defeat the 3X rule in every direction relative to the adjacent trusses. BUT, depending on the spacing of the As and Vs, you might be able to install extra branch lines, while still keeping uprights 6' apart, and achieve adequate coverage (at least from a common sense perspective). It might meet the letter of the law here. If you do overload the space to provide better coverage, I would consider 4.2k sprinklers since your spacing will be so dense and the 7psi will get you in your calcs if you go 5.6. The other alternative is a ceiling attached directly to the bottom chord and fill the space with non-combustible insulation.
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Jack G
6/24/2025 04:51:56 pm
I m with Jesse / Anthony on locating in the the A s and V s.
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Jay (OP)
6/27/2025 08:04:04 am
Thanks, all, for the replies. The roof is only sloped at .25 / 12, but due to the length of the building the truss depth varies from about 14" on the north end to 38" on the south end, with the average in the middle being around 26" - 30". The angle of the diagonal truss members will be slightly different on every truss, making it virtually impossible to strictly adhere to the 3x rule. I think the best I can do is space the heads close enough to allow for some field adjustments, and hope the AHJ takes the common sense perspective mentioned by Casey.
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