Can existing sprinkler heads that are no longer provide a code required purpose remain in place if the situation changes back in the future?
Situation #1: A mall tenant space that is non-combustible construction with sprinklers at the deck, then a ceiling is added with pendents for new tenant. Can the uprights remain in place for the likelihood of a future tenant that removes the drop ceiling and pendents? Situation #2: A nursing home dwelling unit closet with doors that had a pendent sprinkler. Now doors are removed and a built in shelving unit was installed with just a 3-inch gap between the top of the unit and the head. Can the head remain in place even though its not technically needed, for a time in the future when the shelfing unit may be removed and the space turned back to a closet? Currently a customer is being cited by the state saying this situation needs to be corrected. Would the heads all have to be removed? Thanks in advance. Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Dan Wilder
10/5/2022 08:10:33 am
As a general rule, if it does not work as intended it needs to be removed (sound like this is not the case, but as you bring up the mall issue).
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David Kendrick
10/5/2022 08:11:02 am
Situation #2
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Adam
10/5/2022 08:11:45 am
From a logic standpoint, as long as code requirements, such as minimum separation distances are met, and it can be shown that the system is still able to perform as intended hydraulically, I would think it's okay to exceed the code.
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franck
10/5/2022 08:21:31 am
If you keep them, you need to maintain them the same way as for required sprinklers
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Greg
10/5/2022 08:25:57 am
Situation 1: NFPA 25 would require visual inspection (of the sprinkler head) and that seems negated by the presence of a ceiling.
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Glenn Berger
10/5/2022 09:05:47 am
Good discussion items were mentioned above. If the sprinklers are active and maintained keep them in service. The sprinkles do present an additional level of fire protection that is not code required.
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Casey Milhorn
10/5/2022 09:23:12 am
It's a grey area (on purpose I believe) in the standards. I think it comes down to an owner's choice (that is if the AHJ doesn't have any input). The liability of leaving it in vs taking it out can go either way. What if you make the call, plug the heads, then have a leak at a plug? What if you make the call to leave it in, and it leaks? What if you take it out and there is a fire above ceiling? I always go back to car analogies. If a North Canadian bought a car from Florida with A/C on it, it's their choice whether to leave it on the car or not. They might not ever need it, but it's there if they do. Yes, they have the cost of maintaining it, but also the cost of taking it out, and then replacing it if they ever moved to a hot place. Either way it's their call and their consequences. It's not a perfect analogy, but helps us remember these buildings have owners that are responsible for their own buildings.
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Tammi Worrell
10/5/2022 10:12:11 am
I'm a State Life Safety Code Surveyor. NFPA 101 says that even if a feature is not required, that feature must be maintained or removed.
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Randy Kimbro
10/5/2022 10:23:53 am
As an AHJ, and respectfully to Dan's comments, "IFC 901.4.5 "Appearance of Equipment" - Any device that has the physical appearance of life safety or fire protection equipment but does not perform that life safety or fire protection function shall be removed. (this is geared more toward things like cameras but I have had inspectors use it for abandoned or non-functioning fire protection equipment)"
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Jesse
10/5/2022 10:25:35 am
If the system is active, and it sounds as if it is, you can leave the uprights in place.
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DS
10/5/2022 11:58:22 am
Situation #1.
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Cliff Schulze
10/5/2022 02:16:15 pm
The one issue I don't see anyone talking about is the temperature of the heads above the ceiling of the mall tenant space. NFPA says that "sprinklers in an unventilated, concealed space, under an uninsulated roof, or in an unventilated attic shall be of the intermediate temperature classification."
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Brian Cockburn
10/5/2022 04:06:42 pm
#1 - The existing sprinklers can remain. They are not required, but there's no harm in keeping them.
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Chris
10/6/2022 03:18:27 pm
Situation #1 Leaving them is no factor if they are still supplied with water. There are big concrete tilt panel buildings all over Houston with the heads still installed at the deck even though they built an office space inside the building with acoustic ceilings installed down below. A plug installed in the branch line outlet is just as likely to leak as the head that is already there so no factor there either.
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