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Hi everyone, I have some questions regarding old high rise standpipes.
In many old high-rise buildings, they will have a wet standpipe fed from a gravity tank (or tanks), which is in turn filled by dedicated tank-fill pumps. Some will also have an additional manual fire pump down in the basement that can pressurize the standpipe upwards; I’m figuring just as backup for the existing roof tank reservoir. First question: Is this type of setup just a relic of the past since it’s just a manual backup pump? I haven’t found where in modern code it seems to be applicable to this whole setup. At least, it doesn’t seem to have any mention in NFPA 20, even though that’s the main fire pump book. Second question: All these vintage motors and controllers seem to be wound-rotor motors, and the controller is speed-controlled via resistor banks. Is the stepped speed control simply to reduce inrush by ramping one step at a time up to full speed, or are they intended to operate at reduced speeds on purpose? I’m figuring the modern equivalent to these old setups would likely be a soft-start controller if you’re just looking to reduce inrush, or a VFD controller if you want to run at reduced speeds on purpose. Of course, all of this conjecture is only if such a setup is even relevant to modern code. Thank you for any insight you can offer! Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Glenn Berger
7/29/2026 08:12:47 am
Sounds like a relic configuration where the water supply was a tank that was located on the roof. These systems had a manual pump to assist the filling the tank in case of a low level alarm.
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Mark Harris
7/29/2026 08:36:13 am
In 40 plus years I only tested one DC voltage fire pump (old) and the controller worked with the step clicks as described.
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EL
7/29/2026 08:44:45 am
First question: I believe what you're describing is largely a relic. Modern NFPA 20 is based on the premise that a fire pump starts automatically. If a fire pump is needed to meet the required standpipe demand today, it would be expected to start automatically rather than manually. That's why you wont find much in current NFPA 20 addressing manual fire pumps. They were common in older installations but aren't really considered by the current standard.
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Josh
7/29/2026 09:04:55 am
I feel like the others have given about the same replies I would. I just want to know if you have photos we can look at!
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Jack G
7/29/2026 11:05:26 am
Philadelphia had a tank and pump on every building 6 stories and up. In the 80s code compliance made you remove them and install an up to date fire system from the street. Electrical services for the high rise pumps 6 stories and up were astronomical. So we installed Diesels. We installed hundreds of them as there were 400 high rise buildings in Philadelphia alone at the time.
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Charlie
7/29/2026 06:41:28 pm
Thank for the replies everyone, looks like I wasn’t too far off the mark with my guesses.
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Josh
7/31/2026 09:07:17 am
That's pretty cool to see! Thanks for sharing.
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