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As an AHJ, how do we respond to someone that wants to use new technology that is not recognized by Code / Standard?
Such as Sonic Fire Tech? https://www.sonicfiretech.com/ Do we recognize it or require UL / FM / "Approval" before allowing it as an approved system? In other words, what would be the basis for saying "no" at this stage? Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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M. Newell
4/13/2026 08:08:59 am
If you read through the definitions in NFPA approved does not mean approved by a listing agency. The definition for listing is what normally constitutes UL, FM, or other national recognized testing laboratories. The authority having jurisdiction a lot of time has the option for approval. If you do not feel comfortable with whatever technology is being utilized as “approved”. Then you do not need to allow it. You could also ask for it. It’s equivalency method to show how it would be as effective and not lower the standard based on the standard you are applying to your project.
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Sean
4/13/2026 08:21:03 am
Below is general info shared as an example from NFPA 13 as well as enhanced content (sorry for the length) when it comes to performance based alternatives or equivalency. Unsure if this addresses the specific concern with the technology.
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Todd Wyatt
4/13/2026 08:23:44 am
To determine the Code Compliance of materials, designs or methods of construction and equipment, the Building Official (e.g. AHJ) has (3) methods …
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Dan Wilder
4/13/2026 08:33:56 am
So many questions....but kuddos for the forward thinking. As there is no recognized exterior fire protection within 13D, it would be a tough sell in my mind.
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Glenn Berger
4/13/2026 08:36:26 am
Learn more about the technology. Understand if there are current installations. Are there any listings anywhere in the world?
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Chad
4/13/2026 08:48:13 am
Nothing says they cannot try something new, that is not required.
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Chris Nelson
4/13/2026 09:27:47 am
As an AHJ FPE, two words: demo burn.
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Christopher
4/13/2026 09:33:14 am
Edit: even the backpack on the bush was 1 ft away and the shrub was right under the cone. I would need to see one in a less opportune spot than directly under. Build up of leaves from a lazy homeowner etc etc.
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Anthony
4/13/2026 10:44:46 am
For any new system I'd like to see a preponderance of evidence that the performance goals the system is intended to replace as an alternative is met.
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Jose R Figueroa
4/13/2026 12:09:48 pm
I found this information online:
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Mark Harris
4/13/2026 09:50:46 pm
Great discussion. Being from Midwest I don't know if CA requires exterior wildfire protection but as Dan notes not part of NFPA 13D. As far as UL or FM as a new technology there may not been a testing standard.
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