I have a project that has me perplexed.
Let's call it a very large bus station with retail, maintenance and other back of house entities. The facility is more than one million square feet where the people are and the busses are all staged around the exterior. There is a second level, but it too contains only back-of-house personnel, systems, and storage. The related codes are the International Fire Code (2021), the International Performance Code (2021), and Standard NFPA 130 (2020). The Design team has decided to not have sprinklers for the public concourse but have sprinklers everywhere else and reference NFPA 130 5.4.4.1 for omitting the sprinklers in the concourse. Can an AHJ apply a standard over code without an amendment to the code(s)? If so, what would the code to standard progression be outside of amendments? In one state I've done work in for decades, the AHJ can only interpret the code and apply the standard as necessary. Not apply a standard and ignore the code. The facility exists and only the busses are exterior to the facility. Thanks for your take on this. Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
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Pete H
4/18/2025 06:17:17 am
Is the state the AHJ and you are working in the same one you've done work in for decades?
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Matt H
4/18/2025 08:22:46 am
You describe this as a bus facility, I'd question if NFPA 130 would even apply. It is geared specifically for train / rail systems, and specifically excludes buses and trolley coaches. I would look back to the building code you are working in since that is what's going to tell you when to sprinkler. For a mixed use building of that size, I would be very surprised if it being partially unsprinklered would be allowed.
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Glenn Berger
4/18/2025 08:27:07 am
The basic answer to your question is "YES." The AHJ can interpret codes and standards and how are they applicable to each specific project.
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Jesse
4/18/2025 08:37:47 am
Agree, I don't think 130 would apply except as allowed by 1.1.4
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Dan Wilder
4/18/2025 08:42:02 am
The IBC has section 102.4 Referenced codes and standards - "The codes and standards in this code shall be considered to be part of the requirements of this code to the prescribed extent of each such reference and as further regulated in Sections 102.4.1 and 102.4.2". That section is Chapter 35 under NFPA.
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M. Newell
4/18/2025 08:53:27 am
Dan is right people like to pick and choose certain design standards, but sometimes those design standards conflict with the code, or have requirements that are referenced in NFPA codes rather than the IBC.
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Ryan K.
4/18/2025 08:43:58 am
The concept of preemption could prevent this situation from occurring, as the adopted code generally supersedes a referenced standard.
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Jerry Clark
4/18/2025 09:31:28 am
As it pertains to the core question of application of stricter standards, in order for the codes and standards to be enforceable by an Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ) on a building project, they must be formally adopted and codified by the jurisdiction through its legislative or regulatory processes, such as incorporation into local building codes, ordinances, or statutes. This adoption process ensures that the codes, such as the International Building Code (IBC) or National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) standards, have the force of law within the jurisdiction. Without such codification, the AHJ lacks the legal authority to mandate compliance. Jurisdictions may also choose to apply stricter requirements than those in the adopted codes, but these enhanced provisions must similarly be codified in a local ordinance or regulation to be enforceable. This ensures transparency, consistency, and legal grounding for any additional requirements imposed on building projects.
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Todd E Wyatt
4/18/2025 11:38:37 am
The determination of the appropriate Occupancy Classification (OC) by the scoping Code (e.g. IFC-2021 & probably IBC-2021) will determine the appropriate Automatic Sprinkler System (ASPS) to be used.
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Todd E Wyatt
4/18/2025 11:42:10 am
303.3 Assembly Group A-2
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Todd E Wyatt
4/18/2025 11:39:09 am
REFERENCES
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Ed Berkel
4/18/2025 02:00:56 pm
It seems that most every comment has missed the point that the project is utilizing the International Performance Code and not the IBC. If the FPE's design meets the metrics agreed upon by the stakeholders, including the AHJ, there is nothing being overridden by the standard.
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Jack G
4/18/2025 03:59:59 pm
Yes—- AHJ has the right to over ride. Most states indicate if the AHJ feels safety is compromised he can pretty much do anything.
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sean
4/20/2025 11:53:12 am
the stricter of the two shall apply.
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Allan Wilson
5/4/2025 01:21:07 pm
In general, the answer to the question is No. If the Code and Standard are referencing the same situation, and the Code is more restrictive, then it wins.
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