MeyerFire
  • Blog
  • Forum
  • TOOLKIT
    • ALL TOOLS
    • BUY THE TOOLKIT
  • UNIVERSITY
    • ALL COURSES
    • JOIN THE UNIVERSITY
  • PE Exam
    • PE Forum & Errata
    • PE Store
    • PE Tools
    • PE PREP SERIES
    • PE Old Questions
  • STUDENTS
    • LAND JOB/INTERNSHIPS
    • STUDENT CONNECTOR
  • LOGIN
    • TOOLKIT-ONLY LOGIN
    • UNIVERSITY LOGIN
  • STORE
  • OUR CAUSE
    • ABOUT MEYERFIRE
    • JOB OPENINGS
    • BECOME AN INSTRUCTOR
    • HELP/SUPPORT
Picture

Can a UL-Listed K5.6 Fall Under UNI EN K57 Class?

8/14/2025

7 Comments

 
Hi everyone, I’m looking into the compatibility between UL-listed K-factors and European classification under UNI EN 12259-1.

Specifically, I’m reviewing a Viking upright sprinkler (presumed marked 5.6 gpm/√psi), with the typical UL listing and a 1/2” NPT thread. The orifice appears to be in the 10 mm nominal range.

According to Table 3 of UNI EN 12259-1, a 10 mm nominal orifice corresponds to a K-factor of 57 ±3 l/min/√bar.

However, UL 199 allows sprinklers to be classified as 5.6 even with some variation in orifice geometry, and the unit conversion from 5.6 US gpm/√psi gives approximately 80 l/min/√bar, which seems inconsistent with the European 10 mm / K57 classification.

Have you encountered UL-listed 5.6 sprinklers that, due to actual geometry, fall within the K57 class under UNI EN?

Are there known cases where K-factors "overlap" across standards?

An excerpt from UNI EN 12259-1 Annex C below.

​Thanks for your insights — I'm trying to understand how this is approached in practice during technical evaluations or retrofitting in Europe.


Sent in anonymously for discussion. Click Title to View | Submit Your Question | Subscribe
Picture
7 Comments
Pete H
8/14/2025 06:09:41 am

https://www.refiregroup.com.au/product/sprinkler-k-factor-conversion-table/

This link has a metric to imperial conversion table for K Factors.

It doesn't seem to equate 57 or a 10 mm outlet. Plus I think they're using CM and not MM.

Reply
Franck
8/14/2025 09:45:24 am

mm is the right measurement unit in Europe for thread.
But I know that in the US you have many problems of conversion between imperial and metric system. And the chosen unit is not always the one that is commonly used.
NFPA and FM even make many mistakes in conversion or round up values, ending with some differences in the standard.

As an example, one inch is 25.4 mm, not 25 mm. The difference is not huge for 1 or 2 in., but if you take the obstruction table in NFPA 13, you end up with huge differences when we start speaking about 18 in. or 36 in.

Reply
Franck
8/14/2025 09:51:30 am

I had a look at https://www.refiregroup.com.au/product/sprinkler-k-factor-conversion-table/
As you mentioned, the value for the metric system in the table are in an unknown value.

The K-factor is in gpm/(sq ft)1/2 in the imperial system.
It is in l/min/(bar)1/2. This means that the value indicated in the table is in some sort of tenth of liter/min/(bar)1/2. This is definetely not correct as it means nothing to the world outside the imperial unit system (i.e.: the entire World except the US)

Reply
Glenn Berger
8/14/2025 08:19:59 am

There are sprinkler manufacturers who have published data for the European (and other non-US) Market and the respective listings.

Recommend that you contact the respective company and use products that are approved in those jurisdictions.

Reply
Franck
8/14/2025 09:40:57 am

The European standard is using what we could call an "abuse of language" and are mixing threads (the 10, 15 or 20 mm of your table) and orifice size, or making a direct relationship when this relationship is not always verified.

A k5.6 is always a K80 in the metric system, and this whatever the thread size (you can have K80 with 10 mm thread size, 15 mm thread size and 20 mm thread size).
The 15 mm thread size for K80 is the common one. 10 mm and 20 mm are generally used for system retrofit.

The same way, you can have a k8.0 (K115 in metric system) with either a 15 mm or 20 mm thread size. Again, the usual ones have a 20 mm thread and 15 mm thread are generally used for system retrofit.
Because of the orifice size, I do not have any example of K115 on a 10 mm thread.

As a summary, the European correspondence that you have in the table is for the most commonly used sprinklers.
Generally, K57 have a 10 mm thread.
K80 have a 15 mm thread
K115 have a 20 mm thread.

If you have a new installation I strongly suggest you to use 15 mm K80 and not 10 mm K80 to avoid possible mistake in the future.
But both are K_à sprinklers for your hydraulic claculations (no worries).

Note: when the orifice size is not with the common thread size, the sprinkler defecltor generally have a pintle as a visual indication.
Very helpful when making evaluation from the ground floor.

For ours US cisitzens:
10 mm thread is 3/8 in. (generally used with K4.0 sprinklers)
15 mm thread is 1/2 in. (generally used with K5.6 sprinklers)
20 mm thread is 17/32 in. (generally used with K8.0 and K11.2 sprinklers)
25 mm thread is 1 in. (generally used with ESFR and CMSA)

Reply
Pete H
8/14/2025 01:18:59 pm

Thank you Franck, cause I was not going to get there from maths alone.

10 = 0.375
15 = 0.5
20 = 0.53

5 mm went from being worth over a 10th of an inch to being worth less than 4 hundredths of an inch.

Reply
James Art FPE
8/20/2025 12:35:17 pm

One sad thing was when the NFPA foolishly deleted the pintles required on fire sprinklers. Prior to that, if the orifice was other than the usual for the thread,
bigger, or smaller, then a pintle was required.

So you could tell right away, often from the floor something was different.
Now the only way is to get close, and hope you can read the SIN, or other markings.

When Smaller Orifices were new, one very tall residential project had been calc'ed for small orifices. It made sense for light hazard.
But when I did the inspection, I could not see the pintle, and asked the C-16 whether they were small orifice.
He assured me they were, but when I got closer I saw they were K-5.6. Never trusted that contractor again.

Q. Where can we find specs on sprinklers if the mfr has gone out of business, or been bought?

Reply



Leave a Reply.

    SUBMIT A QUESTION
    Picture
    Why Sponsor?

    ALL-ACCESS

    Picture
    GET ALL OUR TOOLS

    SUBSCRIBE

    Subscribe and learn something new each day:
    I'm Interested In:

    COMMUNITY

    Top July '26 Contributors
    Picture
    Picture
    Picture
    Picture
    Picture
    Picture
    Picture
    Picture
    Picture
    Picture
    SEE LEADERBOARD

    YOUR POST

    SUBMIT A QUESTION

    PE EXAM

    Get 100 Days of Free Sample Questions right to you!
    SIGN ME UP!

    FILTERS

    All
    A1171
    ABA
    ADA
    ASCE 7
    ASME A17.1
    ASTM E1354
    Blog Thread
    Daily Discussion
    Design-documents
    EN 12259-1
    EN 12845
    Explosion Protection
    Explosion-protection-prevention
    Fire Detection And Alarm Systems
    Fire Dynamics
    Flammable And Combustible Liquids
    Flammable-combustible-liquids
    FM Global
    Human-behavior
    IBC
    ICC 500
    IEBC
    IFC
    IMC
    IPC
    IRC
    ISO
    Means Of Egress
    NBC
    NFPA 1
    NFPA 10
    NFPA 101
    NFPA 11
    NFPA 110
    NFPA 1142
    NFPA 1221
    NFPA 13
    NFPA 13D
    NFPA 13R
    NFPA 14
    NFPA 15
    NFPA 16
    NFPA 17A
    NFPA 20
    NFPA 2001
    NFPA 214
    NFPA 22
    NFPA 220
    NFPA 221
    NFPA 24
    NFPA 241
    NFPA 25
    NFPA 291
    NFPA 30
    NFPA 307
    NFPA 30B
    NFPA 31
    NFPA 33
    NFPA 37
    NFPA 400
    NFPA 409
    Nfpa-415
    Nfpa-45
    Nfpa-495
    NFPA 497
    NFPA 5000
    NFPA 502
    NFPA 54
    NFPA 55
    NFPA 654
    NFPA 68
    NFPA 70
    NFPA 701
    NFPA 72
    NFPA 75
    NFPA 770
    NFPA 82
    NFPA 850
    NFPA 855
    NFPA 90A
    NFPA 92
    NFPA 96
    NICET
    OBC
    OSHA
    Passive Building Systems
    PE Prep Guide
    PE Prep Series
    PE Sample Problems
    Poll
    Smoke Management
    Special Hazard Systems
    UFC 3-600-01
    UFC 3-601-02
    UFC 4-021-01
    UFC 4-211-01
    UPC
    Updates
    Water Based Fire Suppression
    Weekly Exams


    ARCHIVES

    September 2026
    August 2026
    July 2026
    June 2026
    May 2026
    April 2026
    March 2026
    February 2026
    January 2026
    December 2025
    November 2025
    October 2025
    September 2025
    August 2025
    July 2025
    June 2025
    May 2025
    April 2025
    March 2025
    February 2025
    January 2025
    December 2024
    November 2024
    October 2024
    September 2024
    August 2024
    July 2024
    June 2024
    May 2024
    April 2024
    March 2024
    February 2024
    January 2024
    December 2023
    November 2023
    October 2023
    September 2023
    August 2023
    July 2023
    June 2023
    May 2023
    April 2023
    March 2023
    February 2023
    January 2023
    December 2022
    November 2022
    October 2022
    September 2022
    August 2022
    July 2022
    June 2022
    May 2022
    April 2022
    March 2022
    February 2022
    January 2022
    December 2021
    November 2021
    October 2021
    September 2021
    August 2021
    July 2021
    June 2021
    May 2021
    April 2021
    March 2021
    February 2021
    January 2021
    December 2020
    November 2020
    October 2020
    September 2020
    August 2020
    July 2020
    June 2020
    May 2020
    April 2020
    March 2020
    February 2020
    January 2020
    December 2019
    November 2019
    October 2019
    September 2019
    August 2019
    July 2019
    June 2019
    May 2019
    April 2019
    March 2019
    February 2019
    January 2019
    December 2018
    November 2018
    October 2018
    September 2018
    August 2018
    July 2018
    June 2018
    May 2018
    November 2017
    October 2017
    September 2017
    August 2017
    July 2017
    June 2017
    November 2016
    October 2016
    July 2016
    June 2016


    PE PREP SERIES

    SEE LEADERBOARD

    SEARCH THE FORUM

    RSS Feed

Picture
​Home
Our Cause
The Blog
The Forum
PE Exam Prep
The Toolkit

MeyerFire University
​Pricing
Login
​Support
Contact Us
Picture

MeyerFire.com is a startup community built to help fire protection professionals shine.
Our goal is to improve fire protection practices worldwide. We promote the industry by creating helpful tools and resources, and by bringing together industry professionals to share their expertise.

​MeyerFire, LLC is a NICET Recognized Training Provider and International Code Council Preferred Education Provider.

All text, images, and media ​Copyright © 2016-2025 MeyerFire, LLC

We respect your privacy and personal data. See our Privacy Policy and Terms of Service. 
The views, opinions, and information found on this site represent solely the author and do not represent the opinions of any other party, nor does the presented material assume responsibility for its use. Fire protection and life safety systems constitute a critical component for public health and safety and you should consult with a licensed professional for proper design and code adherence.

Discussions are solely for the purpose of peer review and the exchange of ideas. All comments are reviewed. Comments which do not contribute, are not relevant, are spam, or are disrespectful in nature may be removed. Information presented and opinions expressed should not be relied upon as a replacement for consulting services. Some (not all) outbound links on this website, such as Amazon links, are affiliate-based where we receive a small commission for orders placed elsewhere.

  • Blog
  • Forum
  • TOOLKIT
    • ALL TOOLS
    • BUY THE TOOLKIT
  • UNIVERSITY
    • ALL COURSES
    • JOIN THE UNIVERSITY
  • PE Exam
    • PE Forum & Errata
    • PE Store
    • PE Tools
    • PE PREP SERIES
    • PE Old Questions
  • STUDENTS
    • LAND JOB/INTERNSHIPS
    • STUDENT CONNECTOR
  • LOGIN
    • TOOLKIT-ONLY LOGIN
    • UNIVERSITY LOGIN
  • STORE
  • OUR CAUSE
    • ABOUT MEYERFIRE
    • JOB OPENINGS
    • BECOME AN INSTRUCTOR
    • HELP/SUPPORT