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Trick to Collecting Owner's Insurance Standards?

9/4/2024

 
Last week, we posted results on what sprinkler contractors need as part of a set of biddable construction documents.

One of the top needs that sprinkler contractors expressed was whether the owner had any insurance-driven criteria that applied to the project.

THE SURPRISE
This likely isn't a surprise if you've encountered it on a job: a building is designed, bid specs are applied, bids are collected, the contract is awarded, sprinkler shop drawings are created and submitted, and then out of the blue [BOOM!], a review comes in from FM Global.

FM Global? Did someone know that this was an FM Global job?

No discredit to the FM Global team whatsoever - they do an excellent job in establishing a higher level of excellence and have propelled our industry for years - but shouldn't we all have known that FM would be a part of the project from the beginning?

That answer, of course, is yes.

CHALLENGES WITH INSURER-DRIVEN CRITERIA
It can be tough to grapple with if you've been on a project where that's been a surprise. It can also put a building owner in a difficult position of mediating what their insurer wants them to provide against the increased cost of doing so via change order.

As we've discussed, delegated design is one key area where a consultant provides tremendous value in coordinating and pre-planning these asks well before bid day, which would create a smoother project experience. Instead, missing or ignoring insurance criteria altogether can set the project back in schedule and cost.

From the consultant's side - it's not always easy to get a straight answer from a building owner. 

VARIABILITY AMONG BUILDING OWNERS
Big developers or large corporate clients are often very informed on their design standards; they may even have a complete set of standards themselves ready to distribute.

Smaller or first-time building owners are often less likely to carry insurance criteria that stipulate much in terms of fire protection above code minimum. 

But what about the projects in between? 

What about the corporate client building in the area for the first time? The regional grocery chain? The distribution center? Mid to large retailers? Restaurants? Healthcare? Manufacturing? Hotels?

Anything in this range could carry insurance that mandates a standard above NFPA 13 in certain areas, including critical ones like sprinkler design criteria.

Just because an insurance company isn't FM Global doesn't mean that FM Global Standards don't apply; many other carriers could still follow FM Global criteria or even have a more comprehensive program like XL GAPs (or something similar).
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Insurance criteria and owner standards play a critical part in a set of fire protection bid documents and can be a costly surprise too late in a project. But what's the best way to get the answer from the right person?
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BEST PRACTICES FOR GETTING THE INSURANCE QUESTION ANSWERED
What I'm most curious about is what has been your most successful process for getting this information from a building owner.

As a consultant, I had my best luck when we'd have a design meeting, and the owner or owner's representative was in the room, and I could ask directly about any insurance mandates above code minimum.

The line I used often sounded like, "Do you carry any requirements or standards above code minimum, like FM Global?"

If the owner or owner's representative was familiar with FM Global, there'd usually be a quick yes and they could confirm fairly quickly.

Honestly, all other cases would get a blank stare. I'd explain that the insurance criteria above the code were not the norm but that we'd want to incorporate it if there were any that applied.

In most cases, this was enough information to work from, but I never liked the inexact nature of going by a mostly uninformed answer. I found it to at least elicit a response, unlike emails, which tended to never get returned, but still - there's got to be a better way.

THE BIGGER QUESTION: WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU?
From last week, we know that insurance criteria are a major factor in determining what should be in the bid documents.

So my question to the consultants here is: What have you found to be the best approach to getting this information from an owner?

What method has worked to (1) actually get a response from the right person and (2) get a response that's usually accurate?

Let us know in the comments here. I have my lame approach but I'd much rather collaborate and share ideas on what works so that, as a whole, we can do a better job of creating a quality set of bid documents.


Thanks for continuing to advocate for the industry. Hope you have a great rest of your week!

- Joe
Glenn Berger
9/4/2024 10:44:51 am

Determining applicable codes, AHJs, agencies having interests, etc are all part of my kick-off meeting issues needing resolutions. It normally works.

Randy Luckman - AXA XL Risk Consulting (formerly XL GAPS) link
9/9/2024 08:17:30 am

FM Global data sheets can be found at
https://www.fm.com/resources/fm-data-sheets

AXA XL Risk Consulting (formerly XL GAPS) Property Risk Consulting (PRC) Guidelines can be found at
https://axaxl.com/prc-guidelines

The majority of the fire sprinkler requirements for AXA XL are found inside of document PRC 12.1.1.0 and the direct link is
https://axaxl.com/-/media/axaxl/files/pdfs/prc-guidelines/prc-12/prc12110sprinklersystemsv2.pdf

Mary E Marley
9/9/2024 03:30:56 pm

You can also ask if the company works with a loss control rep through their broker who can help determine higher requirements.

Similar to insurance requirements, I would add that it is critical to identify the highest hazard thing planned for a building and not just what the owner is calling it - specifically whether high piled storage is the defining hazard rather than manufacturing. It can be tough to recover from a 0.17/2500 area with rubber and plastic high piled storage.

James Art Independent FPE
9/11/2024 01:43:43 pm

This is another good reason cities, AHJ's should have or consult with FPE's.
Several AHJ's including San Jose require a spec warehouse,
without specific occupant to design for at least .3/3000.

This has saved the bacon for several jobs I have handled,
and if they go High Piled, at least the system can usually be hydraulically reinforced.

Also did one job that turned out to be for a Google warehouse.
The sprinklers in that spec warehouse was designed to facilitate a tenant adding a fire pump if needed.


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