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Decoupling & De-costing: FPE Change is Coming

10/30/2024

 
I want to challenge you with a question.

I’m going to suppose you’re a reasonably competent, experienced, practicing fire protection professional. (You’re reading this blog, after all!)

Some of you are also licensed Fire Protection Engineers.

If I asked you to first write a balanced combustion chemical equation for heptane (C₇H₁₆) in the presence of oxygen, and then find the Heat of Formation per molecule of heptane, could you do it with only knowing the values of Heat of Formation for water vapor, oxygen, heptane and carbon dioxide?

No ChatGPT, no Google – just the answer to this?

Or, are you like me, in that not only is it a stretch for me to be capable of doing this, but I have never come close to doing anything of this sort in a variety of Fire Protection Engineering roles that I’ve taken in my career?

NUANCE IN THE EXAM
That question – specifically – is fair game for the Fire Protection P.E. Exam.

Chemical equation balancing and heat of formation are both in the Fire Protection P.E. Exam specifications, as is many other nuanced applications.

Fire Protection Engineering covers a very wide breadth of content. It’s far more than sprinkler protection.

One of the most misunderstood parts of being a Fire Protection Engineer is the assumption that an FPE is an expert in sprinkler systems. They could be, but they very well could not be. At most, the Fire Protection P.E. Exam is 20% sprinkler system-related.

The P.E. Exam covers Special Hazards, Fire Alarm, Smoke Control, Explosion Protection, Passive Building Systems, Egress, Human Behavior, and some fundamentals on using information and data.

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Historically, the Fire Protection P.E. Exam covers far more than just fire suppression. Many might argue that much of the knowledge that is tested is not regularly used in industry practice by Fire Protection Engineers.

Historically, while many things are not relevant to a practicing Fire Protection Engineer, the test has been nuanced and forces the examinee to consider and be at least minimally competent in some basics of all these facets of Fire Protection Engineering.

Historically, that’s been OK. Even if it’s not real world, it has served its role in trying to delineate competency for Fire Protection Engineering. 
 
But now, in 2024, we have two converging themes that are going to change the future of Fire Protection Engineering licensure. Some changes will be good, some may not.
 
DECOUPLING THE EXPERIENCE TO SIT FOR AN EXAM
Some states have “decoupled” the requirement for experience in order to sit for a P.E. Exam. Meaning that instead of waiting and gaining four years (or two years in some states, such as California), some states will allow an engineering graduate to take the exam at any time, but not earn the license until they’ve later reached the required amount of experience.

Texas, for example, moved to this in 2016 to accommodate different career paths and encourage licensure. (https://pels.texas.gov/decoupling.html)
 
FLEXIBILITY
I see this as a two-edged sword.

On the one hand, offering flexibility in when the exam is taken can encourage more attempts at the exam and more licensed Fire Protection Engineers.

If I’ve heard anything over the last decade, it’s that we need more good people invested in fire protection and licensed as FPEs. There continues to be a massive demand for FPEs.

Allowing someone to take an exam before having kids or marriage, while they’re fresh out of school and still in ‘study-mode’, or during more convenient times of their life does well to benefit the examinee.
 
ACADEMIC VS. REAL-WORLD
On the other hand, this puts a lot of pressure on the test writers to get the subject matter correct.
If we’re testing on topics that do not relate to the industry, then this ‘decoupling’ is pushing the new-grad into a massive advantage.

Going back to our chemical equation question.

Let’s assume the new graduate student, Person A, doesn’t know the answer.

Let’s look at a practicing, experienced, and competent experienced professional. Let’s call them Person B, who has never come across this in the fire protection industry and hasn’t studied or taken a major test in two decades.

Who does this question benefit?

It’s Person A – and by a wide margin. They’re still fresh out of school. They’re used to exams. They’re used to studying long hours (hopefully). They remember how to take tests. They know test-taking strategy; they’ve just done it for years!

Suppose the test prioritizes more theory or academic subjects. In that case, the green new graduate has a significant advantage in passing the test – even over people with many years of experience.

I’ve been told multiple times from people with little to no relevant experience that they’ve already passed the PE Exam. What does that say? That the person is highly intellectual? They’re driven and self-motivated, and smart? That the exam can’t differentiate between relevant experience and someone who studies for the exam?

I don’t know the answer to those questions, but they’re worth asking.

To be clear – there is nothing morally or ethically wrong with anyone taking the PE Exam whenever they are eligible. Go get that thing! It’s a tremendous benefit in recognition and sets people up for a whole new career trajectory.
What I question are the particulars of the exam itself. Its role is changing, and it probably needs to adapt and be a better indicator of industry knowledge than academic knowledge.

The experienced professional should have a natural advantage if the test reflects real-world practice. Passing the PE Exam in Fire Protection should feel much more familiar and comfortable to an experienced person than a new grad.

This is going to be a challenge for the volunteer test writers. It’s a tall task, and there has long been a complaint about the exam (that it’s too academic).

If you feel called to that effort, contact SFPE and get involved! They’re always looking for help in test writing or exam specifications.

Also note that they don’t allow crossover between the real writers and the outsiders who teach on it (us). The exam's subject matter is an important and relevant debate today.
 
HISTORICALLY HIGH BARRIER TO ENTRY
On an unrelated trajectory, Fire Protection as a discipline has gained increasing visibility in the design and construction environment today. To prepare for the Fire Protection P.E. Exam 15 years ago, SFPE’s handbook and online course were the only options for prep material. Today, SFPE’s online course continues, we have content and a book, the School of PE has a course, and others like PPI have also expressed interest in serving this space.

With the older written book, an examinee needed to purchase SFPE’s Handbook ($500-$900), NFPA’s Handbooks ($300+), and nearly a dozen codes and standards (which could easily run $500+).

Now, with the online exam, any relevant material is provided as part of the exam itself.

Fifteen years ago, no one had to purchase an online course or optional handbook, but the cost of just the required reference materials could easily have run $1,500 or more, and the cost of a course on top could have easily added another $1,500.

Fifteen years ago, there was a massive financial barrier to entry.

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Required reference materials alone could commonly cost $1,500 or more in the older written-exam format.

​It was extremely burdensome to invest the time (three months or more) and the cost (regularly $3,000+) to take the Fire Protection P.E. Exam.

Don’t forget – with having to wait a few years to take the exam – there was more at stake than time and money. There’s a major pressure of passing the exam when your employer, family, and colleagues all know how much attention and effort you’ve put in.

In other words, it was an extremely high-stakes test.
 
TODAY'S LOWER BARRIER TO ENTRY
For one, the cost of codes and standards is pennies on the dollar. NFPA Link only costs $10 a month and gives access to all these codes and standards. The NCEES Handbook is free, and there are low-cost options like the NCEES practice exam (~$45) and our book ($250). Some courses and their materials can still run $2,000 or more, but the financial barrier to entry is a fraction of what it used to be.

For example, if your employer is already on MeyerFire University, it’s only $130/year to add yourself as a user and get all the PE Prep. While that sounds like a shameless plug, I don’t mean it that way. I am sure you’ve seen enough about the University already. Concerning the cost - I’ve thought for years that access to this kind of information needs to be available and more accessible to the industry beyond only the PE examinees. It needs to be out there.

So what easily ran $3,000 just 15 years ago could look a lot more like $500 or less today.
 
WHAT COULD THIS MEAN?
In some states, decoupling has altered the experience requirement for sitting for the exam.

Breaking down the tradition of insane costs just to adequately prepare for the exam is going to lessen the barrier to entry in a healthy way. Reducing the costs also lessens the impact of not passing the exam on any one try.
 
1. LESS AT STAKE
One possible benefit of decoupling and democratizing cost is that far, far less is at stake for one person taking the exam.
So you’re a year out of school, take the exam, and don’t pass. Who cares? You can retake it next year, and there’s no shame or hole in your bank account.

There’s less angst, less pressure, and less money at stake. That’s a good thing.
 
2. MORE FPEs?
Could removing the financial burden mean that more people try the exam?

What about a licensed engineer in another discipline? If they don’t realistically need to spend $3k to take the exam anymore, do they try it when they would not before?

On average, if more people take the exam and give it the attention it deserves, we’ll get more licensed FPEs.

That’s possibly a very good thing for the industry.

In a way, if an organization's goal is to create more Fire Protection Engineers in the world, then reducing the burden to get licensure (reducing cost) could perhaps be one important way to encourage that. Not make the exam easier, but make it less expensive.

SCARCITY VS. ADVOCACY
Now, before we think of this from a scarcity mindset, and that more FPEs will mean more competition and less value for each existing FPE – I would challenge you with this: What is our biggest detraction from being more involved and doing better fire protection work in our industry?

It’s our shortage of skilled, caring professionals.

We can’t advocate for more involvement or be more involved without more highly skilled, caring professionals. They don’t have to be FPEs, but if more of them are – great.

Advocacy for caring about and advocating for fire protection is half of our battle. If we have more FPEs in the world, that advocacy becomes easier.
 
4. COMPETENCY
With decoupling, we’ve removed some experience component.

Is the test measuring a person’s ability to study and take an exam?

Is it a measure of intelligence?

Is it a measure of competency in fire protection technical understanding?

Is it a measure of what a competent, educated, discerning engineer should be?

Is it protecting the care, concern, and craft of ethical and sound engineering judgment? Or is it playing into further apathy that’s already present outside of the fire protection industry?

I don’t know the answer to any of these. But with decoupling, these questions come into play and become relevant in a completely new way.
 
5. MORE ONUS ON ABET-ACCREDITED ENGINEERING DEGREE
Let’s say the exam parameters don’t change. That it stays fairly embedded in foundational engineering testing and leans a bit more academic than real-world practice.

Suppose the exam itself shifts from the gate-keeping role of what it means to be a competent professional and rather is (pessimistically) a measure of academic achievement. What does that mean for the ABET-Accredited Engineering Degree that is required in order to take the exam?

My gut says that the importance of the PE Exam decreases, and the importance of the engineering degree increases. If the PE is less of a barrier, then the engineering degree becomes the significant effort and more of the ‘gatekeeper’ of the profession.
 
6. KEEPING WHAT IS GREAT
What sets the fire protection industry apart from others (looking at you, MEP) is our shared sense of responsibility.

I find that many people are more loyal to a cause and to doing good in the world than they are to their own employer.

We have a common sense of purpose, and I think that drives a lot of passion and care for the community that is our group of fire protection professionals.

That’s a real thing.

I don’t think that changes in licensure will affect the industry much, especially since so few people who practice in the industry are FPEs to begin with.

But I do think that potentially lowering the barrier to entry (financial, time investment, or burden of failure) means we need to be on the lookout for ways to continue to embrace, encourage, and build-up newcomers to the industry.

We care about it. People before us and people before them have cared about it. My hope is that the industry's major growth means that we grow the community and do not drift out of the passionate niche mindset that so many of us carry.
 
YOUR TAKE
Lots of food for thought today.

What’s your take?

Cameron Bardas
10/30/2024 12:54:23 pm

I am extraordinarily grateful for the thoughtfulness and perspective provided in this article, and the discussion it promotes. This is valuable perspective on the balance/importance of practice exams, in my case coming from a Canadian perspective where we don't all have technical professional practice exams/requirements of any kind (specifically to point #5, in our jurisdiction the technical onus is entirely on the post-secondary degree).

Chris link
10/30/2024 02:49:30 pm

I’ve been a sprinkler fitter 12yrs now and also work at a fire dept. Biggest problem I’ve seen is a consistent lack of of continuous education I’ve talked to fitters that are still stuck in the 80s and 90s nfpa standard of sprinkler fitting. The second biggest problem is project managers just simply don’t care, there are so many project managers that got there position and have never spent a day in the field and got there position because they know somebody that’s my 2cents

Brian Gerdwagen FPE
10/31/2024 08:11:07 am

I think the biggest barrier to entry is the ABET Engineering accreditation. Most of my contemporaries are Maryland graduates or Mechanical Engineers that passed the FP exam. I think this creates a monopoly that will be tough to break. Your current mainstream options are to go to this one University, or get an unrelated degree and cram for a test.

Rafael E. Giro, P.E.
10/31/2024 03:38:27 pm

Older PE here. Graduated with B.Industrial Engineering, took PE in Mechanical Engineering. Worked in the field with my own fire Sprinkler company. Have done many many designs in fire sprinkler, fire alarm, hvac, plumbing, electrical, structural, energy conservation etc. All these fields have specific requirements and are ever changing to keep up with Code changes. I did not learn about any of these in college as they applied to the real world. Economic need to make a living has continually challenged me to learn about them as my career and opportunities changed. That is the wonderful world of engineering. As a PE, you better understand thoroughly what you are signing that you have learned through academic and real life experiences. Stay humble and eager to continually learn from others. Enjoy the ride !

Mark Murray
11/6/2024 06:00:18 pm

Good information. I agree we need more competent professionals and if there is a way to remove barriers without affecting competency they should be considered. A few thoughts:

Decoupling (Taking the pe exam early): Allowing the engineer to sit for the exam before the 4 year threshold makes sense especially for those who have worked hard and feel ready and doing so allows them to take the exam at the 3.5 year mark, for example, so they can get their license the day they hit the 4 year mark rather than waiting 6 (or more) months for states that only offer the test annually. I would not support making the test less rigorous so that a person with less experience could more easily pass. I feel that both academic foundation and practical experience is required and that is the outcome of obtaining a FPE license. Examining a person only for real word issues without also testing their academic (science foundation) would be a mistake in my opinion.

Examination nuances: The examination has a variety of diverse topics and one must show competency in many topics (but not all of them) to make a passing grade on the examination. The question you ask probably relates to CFM modelling and important if you are doing or overseeing that work. Fire engineering is broad, and licensed engineers must heed ethical rules and not work in certain subject area unless they are qualified. The examination may intentionally require the engineer to demonstrate a broad foundation to help ensure capability as they follow a career path which, in many cases, will bring a variety of work.

Cost: Currently a new engineer must work under a licensed engineer for four years to qualify for the examination and the materials used for examination preparation are often available to the junior engineer at no cost. The employer will often pay for other test prep materials and perhaps the cost of the exam. This may not always be the case for an engineer who may be working in the trades but if the junior engineer is being supervised by a licensed engineer (as required for licensure) some of the materials are likely to be available.

Education: One possible solution to more FPEs is the expand programs at universities. A lot of FPEs have degrees in mechanical, civil, electrical, and chemical engineering which suggest there is not enough capacity in undergraduate programs for fire engineers.

Competency: Those four years working under a licensed engineer are critical in the development of competency. To qualify for an FPE examination one must first pass the fundamental of engineering examination to demonstrate educational foundation to ensure the person has broad capability and is able to think critically and make engineering judgments on a novel topic. Could the same level of competency be achieved without these steps, perhaps? I’ve considered this topic when screening technician (non-engineering degree) candidates for engineering positions, it is difficult to determine technical qualification in an interview. Finding equivalent qualification in a candidate can be difficult especially when the job assignment has more than one technical subject area. Below are the current steps to a PE for my state. Considering equivalency for each step rather that making the PE examination less broad (lowering competency/capability) might be another way to look at it:

1. Obtain an engineering degree from ABET Accredited Program
2. Pass Fundamental in Engineering examination (core science knowledge):
3. Perform engineering work for four years under a licensed engineer
4. Qualify and pass the Professional Engineering Examination

Joe Meyer
11/7/2024 07:50:27 am

Mark,

Outstanding commentary. I really appreciate the perspective and insight.

I agree that there should be no lessening of the competency of capability of the exam. I apologize if I mislead in that regard. Just because a topic might be difficult for me doesn't mean that topic should go away - I would just make the argument that the PE Exam should aim to test for competency in a way that reflects real-world challenges.

I find it problematic that a good test taker who is fresh out of school and no fire protection experience (nor fire protection degree) is passing the exam more readily than responsible, intelligent, and experienced professionals who have been in the industry for two or three decades - mostly because of the misalignment of the PE Exam from industry competency. That's not my theory - that's what I'm seeing happening today.

And I don't mean to knock on the young good test-taker. I'm not mad at them - that person was and is me.

The requirements for years of experience under a professional engineer is an excellent requirement. In practice, is this truly mentorship? Do our companies in industry really provide the depth of training and close mentorship where we can rely on this component for competency? I hear from engineers and contractors all the time how difficult it has been to mentor, guide and teach their own staff. It's a massive undertaking. Some companies do this component very well, but others do not. It's far too easy to 'sign off' on experience under a professional engineer when in reality I think many would say that their training and mentorship could have been far better.

As far as the cost of preparation - I would argue that only some companies will pay for preparation (likely less than half of examinees are company-supported). I know SFPE's Online Course runs a survey on whether the course is paid by the company or not and shows very high rates of support. However, their pool is already very skewed because those who are supported often seek out online courses, whereas the other half (or more) of examinees who aren't supported won't purchase expensive online courses on their own accord. There are those out there that likely would study and take the PE Exam if there's no financial risk to do so - consider an experienced plan reviewer with an ABET engineering degree, or someone who is licensed in a different discipline but always kind of wanted to take the Fire Protection PE Exam. I hear from these kind of candidates all the time.

You have so many great points here that I agree with, and I think there's a lot of work to be done. I agree wholeheartedly that the foundational-aspect needs to be part of the overall competency picture (in my view, part of the FE Exam). I would just challenge that the reality we're seeing on the ground paints a very different picture than what (I suspect) the intent is behind the entire PE credentialing process.

Ricardo Gonzales Jr
11/14/2024 11:41:20 am

This is a great article. As noted above many FPEs are Mechanical or FP educated. My path is less traveled. I started out a LV Tech, obtained the EE PE and fell into FP before it was a discipline. As stated above the initial FP exam preparation was expensive and time consuming. However having the education I received I was able to take on FP work and trained a lot of PEs in the realm of Fire Alarm, Special Suppression and Smoke Control before I obtained my own EE and FPE PE. As with most careers, life happens. It wasn't till I opened my own company in Fire Protection that it officially became a dedicated licensed discipline. When that occurred I obtained teh FPE utilizing experience in several states even though I did take the exam and each exam specialized in a different area of FP.

The 1st exam was heavy sprinkler. Took several sprinkler design courses and was mildly amused those were heavy AHJ types. I laugh because when talking sprinkler with other engineers, they can't do the calcs on a napkin to get a general idea of what is needed without using SprinkCAD or a dedicated calculator. Failed by 2 points.

The 2nd test was heavy Smoke Control and I still haven't figured out why the building design should be done with the predominate wind direction as a basis when I've yet to see a high-rise fire during that particular wind pattern. Again, failed by only 2 points. So I took a few mechanical courses on AHU design.

It was cheaper tor me to contract multiple FPEs than take the exam again.

In 2006, I obtained my 1st FP license due to experience and followed by getting approved for the Professional Member status with SFPE. That allowed my to continue my Federal Work as a QFPE with some great projects. Today the QFPE demands a FP degree as well as passing the FPE exam. Yet, the Feds have graciously allowed me as the QFPE. (project specific of course) for projects I have a lot of experience in.

My only request of new FPEs is they spend a year in the field to better understand the installation of those systems. Like other disciplines, there are niches and those who understand and can comfortably design in their niche should know enough about the other areas to have the fun conversation when needed. Nothing better than carrying a took belt to note how terrible some engineers are with FP. (all areas)

Early in my FP career, is was sad to see so many engineers write a bad specification and no drawings for Fire Alarm, Sprinkler, Smoke Control or Clean Agent yet demand they review the information before it goes to the AHJ. It's gotten better, but still very frustrating to talk to colleagues who think they know but don't understand.

I prefer the raising of the bar, not lowering it.

Anthony C. Brown
12/5/2024 12:12:17 pm

I have worked in the Fire Protection field for almost 29 years as a Designer and worked under the auspices of several PE's. It has always been my intent to sit for my PE using my work experience, due to family issues (i.e. health) I never completed college, and recently started my path to take the exam. Unfortunately for me New York changed their rules on allowing work only experience. Are there any States that will allow a person to sit for the exam without having a degree?

Ralph Giro
12/9/2024 02:04:17 pm

Anthony,
Try NCEES.org. They may help with your question.
Best of Luck....Ralph Giro, P.E.


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